Anthony Kimani Ichung'wah

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: 24th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I have quite a number of Statements today. (Laughter) STATEMENTS BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK OF 25TH TO 29TH SEPTEMBER 2023 (Loud consultations) 24th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) There is another kamukunji happening right before me. There are rooms at the back where Members can consult. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Upon resumption, the House is expected to continue debating the Second Reading of the Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill of 2022. The...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, it starts with a huge background. In March 2022, eight Turkana herders were arrested in Kotinda in the Karamoja area on suspicion of killing three Ugandan geologists and two Uganda People’s Defence Forces (UPDF) soldiers who were guarding the geologists in Lokisilei...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Please allow it so I take a glass of water.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, this is a very sensitive matter because it involves the Head of State of a friendly country and diplomatic channels of a friendly country and a neighbour. I plead that we now limit what we say in relation to this matter because...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I will move on to the next statement from the Ministry of Education on the question of university admissions. CHALLENGES IN UNIVERSITY ADMISSIONS 24th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)with the issue of double registration...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, it is the KeRRA.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, if Hon. Ken Chonga has difficulty in reading, he can consult Hon. Jared Okello, who was in the Departmental Committee on Education and Research. The document that I have just tabled for everybody’s benefit is 48 pages long. It covers all the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I do not know why Hon. Chonga is getting so irritated. I said if he had a difficulty in reading this Report, somebody could help him. Now he tells me that he is doing a PhD. How do you do a PhD?...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, you know that I am an accountant and an economist. I have never pretended to be a lawyer. I do not know whether this letter was without prejudice or with caution but, at least, I can read that there is the word...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I hope that Question has been dropped. A Member cannot have their business lined up in the Order Paper and then they fail to come to the House. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of Order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I chose to ignore the unnecessary tirade from Hon. Millie Odhiambo. She has issues that have nothing to do with the House or the Leader of the Majority Party. She can deal with her issues at home and not here....

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I said we were at Order 8 when I listened to Hon. Makali. He is a decent Member who prosecutes his issues with a lot of decorum and maturity without having to shout or spew the things you have heard being spewed....

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Millie Odhiambo has never appeared in court.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) He is not an accountant.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) He is an economist.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)Economists work with assumptions.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon Temporary Chairman. I support that amendment. Just to be clear, the Bill had proposed to delete the Schedule on public participation. The deletion is what Hon. Gikaria is proposing so that the Schedule remains. He will then move a further amendment to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, sorry to interrupt, but you probably did not get the gist of the argument by (Dr) Nyikal. You were asking the way in which Hon. Gikaria has moved that particular amendment. He is okay with the first part of deletion, but he...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Climate Change (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.42 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) Hon. Members, we will not move...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Chairperson I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Anti-Money Laundering and Combating of Terrorism Financing Laws Amendment Bill (National Assembly) Bill No.35 of 2023 and the provisions relating to proceeds of crime and anti-money laundering...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Naomi Waqo to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Climate Change (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.42 of 2023) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Prof. Bartoo to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with Committee in the said report. I ask Hon. Bowen Kangogo to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will endeavour to do that. Coincidentally, Hon. Speaker, this afternoon I was just sharing with my deputy here at 2.05 p.m. I was on a phone conversation with a constituent of Hon. Kawanjiku from Kiambaa Constituency about a young lady...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you Hon. Speaker. Indeed, it is true the issue was raised yesterday by Hon. Jared Okello and we spoke at length about it. I want to agree with the Leader of the Minority Party that this issue is disturbing many people across the country....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Climate Change (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.42 of 2023) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Gikaria to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As I begin, with your indulgence, when the paralympics team visited the House, a number of Members raised issues on the conduct of the Ministry of Youth Affairs, Sports and the Arts and how it treated that team. There were also...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Before I read out the Questions, I am in receipt of a letter that was copied to me from the Cabinet Secretary for Sports, Culture and the Arts, Hon. Ababu Namwamba. It is addressed to you and the Speaker of the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am well guided. I will proceed to read out the questions as listed on the Order Paper. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 42A (6B) , I beg to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Youth Affairs, Sports...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the Cabinet Secretary asserts he was at the airport to receive them. I do not know if it was at the airport. I am assuming it was at the airport. Maybe he can clarify. If there would be any evidence, I propose that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, indeed, I wanted to seek your indulgence because I have seen we have gone an hour past the time the Speaker had allocated. In view of other business, I seek your indulgence so that we allow the Cabinet Secretary to take leave...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration to the Anti-Money Laundering and Combating of Terrorism Financing Laws Amendment Bill (National Assembly) Bill No.35 of 2023 and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support the amendment. (Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to) (Part II as amended agreed to) Mover, Hon. Millie Odhiambo. Clause 6

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Food and Feed Safety Control Coordination Bill (National Assembly Bill No.21 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Hon. Beatrice Adagala to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Anti-Money Laundering and Combating of Terrorism Financing Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.35 of 2023) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Komingoi to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Sigei to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Food and Feed Safety Control Coordination Bill (National Assembly Bill No.21 of

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Water (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.33 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said Report. I request Hon. Beatrice Kemei to second the Motion of agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Water (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.33 of 2023) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Gideon Kimaiyo, who has just walked in, to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. There is nothing that is out of order. This is to note that other than the Member for Muhoroni, the Member for Nyando, and Hon. Wangwe - the sponsor of this Bill - all the other Members from the Sugar...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: The Treasury Memorandum on action plans to revive and commercialise State-owned sugar companies from the National Treasury and Economic Planning. Hon. Speaker, it is important to elaborate further what this Paper is all...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you Hon. Speaker. Indeed, I was reading the memo here and what Hon. Jared Okello has said is true. That, for the Financial Year 2024/2025 they have been allocated Ksh42 million and the subsequent financial year, Ksh44 million, which is way below the amounts...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I thank Hon. Dorice Donya for raising that issue. I also got word of the attack on the Member for Kirinyaga County by some people in Kirinyaga. I got in touch with the Office of the Clerk just before the House Business Committee...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to reply but before I do that— with your indulgence— allow me to donate three minutes to the Hon. T J Kajwang’. I also take this opportunity to plead with all of us as Members of Parliament, including the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I know many Members who were not there on Thursday want me to donate a minute to them. If I do so, I will give away all my time for reply. I ask them to allow me to reply. Many Members...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker. I am not a Member of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, but Hon. TJ is. He was present in the Committee when this consent was tabled before the Committee. The Chairperson of that Committee can confirm. Therefore, Hon. TJ, if...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. People are becoming increasingly creative in this House. Now they are donating points of order. I know that Hon. Chepkonga was eager to hear from Hon. Murugara. Nevertheless, I have consulted Hon. Murugara about this. As diligent legislators, we need to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Climate Change (Amendment Bill) National Assembly Bill No.42 of 2023 be now read a Second Time. Climate change is here with us. Many of us used to read about climate change and climate control. We used to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Leader of the Majority Party? Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I appreciate that Hon. Nyikal has finished contributing, but I am surprised that he has...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Leader of Majority? Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, the Member for Mbeere North is completely out of order. He cannot question the existence of this...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Leader of Majority? Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, the Member for Mbeere North did not listen to me. I asked him if, in line with...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, first, I want to ask the Member for Mbeere North to relax. He is my friend and it is in his own best interest to conform with our Standing Orders. Allow me to read for him. He did not listen to you....

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank all Members who have contributed to this Bill and for their support. As I said, I hope we will all be keen to take maximum advantage of the carbon credits market and derive value for our constituents. Also, in...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you for your indulgence. I was in Kiambu County with H.E. the President, and I was listening as I was driving from Kiambu. It is, indeed, extremely sad that such good ambassadors of our country can leave 17th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I heard the President the other day saying that there are people serving in the Government who he knows more about their departments and agencies in their ministries than they do. Let them know that notice has been served by none other than...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by thanking the Hon. Chairman…

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I guess Hon. Kaluma wanted to welcome students from his school in Homa Bay, the one from Igembe, and the other school from Tarbaj in Wajir County. I also take this opportunity to welcome them to the National Assembly. I...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) That must be Hon. Jematiah, the Member for Baringo. You know ladies from Baringo are usually very good people. You can see she noticed that I was struggling and my throat was getting dry. Thank you Hon. Jematiah, the very able County Member of Parliament...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Sikujua kupigwa ngwala ni nini. (Laughter) 17th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 29 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)National Planning, who are working on a report on Telkom, of this fact. We need that report tabled in this House so that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Sorry, Hon. Speaker. I have been consulting the Member for Bomet East and asking whether he is Mulumulwasi that was at one time referred to. (Laughter) 16th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)actual and proper public participation of NG-CDF projects...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I spoke about it and forgot I was not to move the Motion. I was only giving notice.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I had actually jumped the gun to tomorrow afternoon.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I will also ensure that the Leader of the Minority Party seconds tomorrow.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me thank Hon. Jane Kagiri for raising that constitutional matter. From the face of it, it is clear that this Bill will go contrary to the provisions of Article 45 of the Constitution. The other issue that I would have,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: AWARE THAT Article 1 (1) of the Constitution provides that all sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with the Constitution; FURTHER AWARE that Article 1 (2) of...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, that is why the Motion talks about respect not only to the rule of law and the Constitution, but also the promotion and respect of human rights. We will build a nation where there is respect not only for the Constitution, rule of...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Unlike other times, this is one of the Motions that none has opposed of all the people who have spoken. I commend the House for the support. That tells you that the country was yearning for this moment.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Wanjala may have challenges understanding what many people are saying here, but I think he has seen that nobody has opposed. Everyone has supported this Motion, including those from the other side of the political divide — in Azimio or Kenya Kwanza Alliance. These...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As you have said, the Petition is well in the House and the petitioner, Mr Ndolo, is well within his rights. But Hon. Speaker, as you read the Petition, I noticed that Hon. Njeri Maina was actually on TikTok. (Laughter)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, many of us, I included, are on TikTok, unashamedly. My Deputy Whip here also says she is on TikTok. There is nothing criminal or evil about being on TikTok. I am also on Snapchat. My teenage daughters are on all these apps. They...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: 15th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)pray that the Almighty God may rest the soul of Mr. Chepkwony in eternal peace, as we continue to pray for the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Before I give notice, you know you quickly dismissed that point of order by Hon. Sunkuli. I was going to object to that point of order on the basis that he has used the word “more”. He said that the Hon....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I know there are Members who expect me to say other things. I said “in that dress and even another”. I know what Hon. Kagombe expected me to say.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I, therefore, beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, aware that Article 1 (1) of the Constitution provides that all sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with the Constitution; further...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move that The Food and Feed Safety Control Coordination Bill (National Assembly Bill No.21 of 2023) Bill be now read a Second Time. Let me first take this opportunity to thank the Departmental Committees on Health and Agriculture...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a Point of Order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Hon. Leader of the Majority Party, what is out of order? Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) There is nothing out of order Hon. Temporary Speaker. Maybe just a point of information to the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As you have rightly said, Hon. John Mukunji, Member of Parliament for Manyatta, sought a statement from the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration and Cabinet Secretary for Information, Communication and Digital Economy on why Worldcoin was collecting data from...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am laughing because there are Members who are asking me to donate a minute to them. I do not know whether they will now respond to the issues on my behalf. It is, indeed, true that this matter was of...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I stand well informed by Hon. Irene Mayaka. However, Hon. Irene Mayaka must understand being an old Member of 3rd August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 22 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)this House when we had the Committee of ICT, I am still in...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Most obliged.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. To begin with, let me commit that I will endevour to get a Statement from the two cabinet secretaries concerned because as has been indicated, I also read on social media what seemed like conflicting statements from the two cabinet secretaries...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I am most obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I was engaging with Hon. Pukose and that almost slipped through. Indeed, 90 days is a very long time. Maybe, we can allow them 45 days maximum for them to engage all the stakeholders. Ninety days will take us to the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for your indulgence. I commend Hon. Chepkonga for seeking this extension. I would just like to caution Members because Hon. Chepkonga is aware that certain aspects of the second item, which is the Universities Regulations, 2023, seek to amend the Universities...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have nothing to add to what you and the Leader of the Minority Party have said. Other than the Member for Baringo Central, Hon. Kandie, who is a Member of that Committee and is here, the Chairperson, Hon. Nimrod Mbai,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker. I am sorry to raise this now. You noticed when you were up on your feet, there were Members who were standing and canvassing very loudly. I also noticed that last week. We are now making the National Assembly look like a village...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Let me begin by thanking Hon. Shakeel Shabbir for tabling this Report and ably moving it for adoption. As the Leader of the Minority Party has noted, Hon. Shakeel has been leading APNAC and GOPAC for a very long time....

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to welcome the Global Caucus on TB. Africa is one of the places where this disease is prevalent. It is mostly because of our crowded neighborhoods, especially in urban areas where there are slums and people...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I take this opportunity to thank Hon. Ng’elechei for thinking of paying tribute or congratulating Ms. Faith, who has done marvelously for this country. Her achievements in the last few months of breaking three world records together with Mr. Omanyala is...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On the usual Thursday statement, on behalf of the House Business Committee (HBC) , and pursuant to Standing Order 442 (a) , I wish to give the following Statement that on Tuesday 25th July, 2023 the HBC met for the consideration...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) The Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture and Livestock Development will respond to the following: 27th July 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 16 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)Allow me to congratulate Hon. Oki Kaunya and Hon. Abdul Haro. These two Members have been very keen in utilising Standing...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you Hon. Speaker. Let me thank the Minority Whip because I am sure in as much as he was not in the House, he was watching the number of people who contributed to this debate. We still have another chance to debate during the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know we are a House of rules. Maybe, you could ask Hon. Atandi to take his seat so that we become orderly. Standing Order 107A (1) is on gross disorderly conduct. Just for the record, I may read for Hon. Atandi....

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wanted to inform Hon. Hilary that he was quite in order. Indeed, the Whip of the Minority Party has confirmed what Hon. Hilary was saying. He is not denying the fact that there are people 27th July 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will begin by telling Hon. Junet that the Kenya Kwanza Government has no desire or plans to enlist the services of goons. Those who enlist the services of goons and anarchy are well known in this country. I want...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) She has no capacity, Hon. Temporary Speaker, to inform me on anything or any subject. I was asking how much violence and bloodshed is enough. I believe you will protect me from this unnecessary noise. (Loud consultations)(Loud consultations)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, please protect me from Hon. Rozaah Buyu or you can allow her to say what she wants on record for us to stop fighting. (Hon. Rozaah Buyu and Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona shouted)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have tremendous respect for Senior Counsel Otiende Amollo because he listens and responds as we should in a debating chamber instead of shouting. I must clarify, I was speaking to the leadership from Luo-Nyanza and saying a time must come for...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, some of these issues are not necessary to respond to because if someone keenly listens to what I am saying, they will get my point. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker, for bringing order back to the House. As I said, if anyone keenly listened to what I said, I was responding to the use of terms like ‘genocide’ and ‘targeting of communities.’

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, as leaders whether from Kiambu or Luo-Nyanza, we must take responsibility. I like what Hon. Sarah Korere said, that you can lead your people in a demonstration peacefully and unarmed. Last week in Kangemi there were people firing gunshots at the police....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have been here long enough to know these tactics…

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know I never stand here to speak carelessly. There is a report which was released the day before yesterday by the Ministry of Interior and National Administration which is in public domain; that 158 police vehicles were destroyed, 305 officers injured...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you must add me time.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, add me time because I have been disrupted. I have three minutes and 20 seconds. If you listened to the people in Kitengela, they said the people were brought in the morning. The violence that was mooted in Mlolongo was not by...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I allowed Hon. Junet because he is a serious leader and he will never shout aimlessly. The day I will run a Government, he will know that. I am not running any Government now. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am just...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is unfair to give me a minute, but I cannot speak as Hon. Millie Odhiambo is shouting. You are shouting for me not to say the truth but I will speak the truth here. As leaders from Luo Nyanza you must...

Order, Members. Order! (Loud consultations) 27th July 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for bringing us back to order. In conclusion, as leaders, we must declare that enough is enough. No more blood should be shed in this country. No more...

Hon. Kimani Ichungw’ah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichungw’ah (Kikuyu, UDA) The Member on her feet is quoting...

Hon. Kimani Ichungw’ah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was waiting for the ones who have a trophy in shouting to finish shouting then I articulate my point of order. The Member who was on her feet, clearly articulating very good points about incidences in South Sudan, is alleging that...

Hon. Kimani Ichungw’ah (Kikuyu, UDA) The Member who spoke about people being mobilised was Hon. Pukose. I also alluded to the fact that there are people who are mobilising others to riot. Nobody alluded to the fact that if you were not in the streets you would not have been...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of information.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I just want to inform Hon. Rindikiri that it is true that people who work and live outside were ferried using public service vehicles to Kitengela. These are facts that speak for themselves. What Hon. Rindikiri is asking is true. We must...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wanted to inform Hon. Tongoyo to ignore Hon. Millie because she says she knows me. I know what she is alluding to and I am not interested. 27th July 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 48 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)Secondly, the Leader...