Veronica Waheti Nduati

Clerk, can you confirm whether we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker) Hon. Senators, we do not have a quorum yet. Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) The Clerk has confirmed that now we have a quorum. Therefore,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I am sure you are conversant with your name and I believe it is not Kimunya. [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) left the Chair] [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair]

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Next in the proposed provisions in the Maternal, Newborn and Child Health Bill is on birth attendants, and I note the focus on healthcare providers and trained birth attendants. Unfortunately, this for me excludes the traditional birth attendants in our homes and villages in Kenya...

Thank you, hon. Senator. I stand advised that the time that was allocated to this Motion has now expired and we have exceeded with a few minutes. It was allocated three hours under Standing Order No.111 (1) . It was now time for the Mover to reply and he is...

Hon. Senators, Standing Order No.1 is usually applicable when we do not have a specific Standing Order that is providing for the action that is being taken by the House. Now, the challenge we have today with this Motion is that hon. Sen. M. Kajwang’ filed an amendment to the...

Senator, you can proceed to invite the Seconder.

other economic activities owing to the destruction and/or closure of educational, health and other institutions;FURTHER CONCERNED THAT, the people living in the affected regions have been denied the enjoyment of their social, economic and political rights as guaranteed to them under the Bill of Rights as enshrined in Chapter Four...

Can you second?

Thank you, Sen. Asige. The Bill is now ready to be debated. I will invite Sen. Danson Mungatana. Before we do that, I will need to propose the question.

Sen. Mungatana, when we resume, you will have a balance of 13 minutes. I want to read out Orders that have been deferred, but they will be rescheduled by the SBC. They are Order Nos. 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26...

Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Chairperson. Following the discussion that we had in the House, the proposals by the Committee of the New Clause 19A was amended to read in the subsection 2, and I read- “The grower who fulfills the provisions of subsection 1 shall notify the board...

Can you now move that the New Clause 19A, be now read a second time?

Division will be at the end. We are now proceeding to Division and we will begin with the Sugar Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 34 of 2022) . There is a chair who is in charge of the session. Serjeant-at-Arms, can you ring the Division Bell for three minutes? (Loud...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee reports to the Senate its consideration of the County Boundaries, Bill (Senate Bills No.6 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) in the...

I request Sen. Cheruiyot to second That is the end of that Division.So, I request Sen. Wambua to stand in for Sen. M. Kajwang’ and give a report. Mover, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the County Boundaries Bill (Senate Bills No.6 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments.

allowed to come here with a cockerel from an old woman in Kakamega so that we can partake of the soup.Thank you, hon. Senators.

only complete with CECMs, COs and directors in place. There are consequences of violation of Section 148 of the PFM Act.This is a serious Statement; it is not just an ordinary Statement. I would have expected the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights and the Committee on Devolution...

The proposed amendment is, therefore, withdrawn. That is in the First Schedule.

Division will be at the end. Sen. M. Kajwang’, do you have a proposal on the Second Schedule?

Proceed.

Sen. M. Kajwang’, if I may render some assistance to the concern you are raising, it may be premature because it will be addressed by the Chairperson of the Committee when he is moving the New Schedule. If Homa Bay County had been left out previously, it will be addressed...

It is in the New Schedule.

We will get there. Perhaps, you can comment if it does not meet the standard that you want. Therefore, I repeat the proposal of the question that the First Schedule, be part of the Bill.

I call the Chairperson, Sen. Wamatinga to proceed.

Can the secretariat then circulate the New Schedule, so that Sen. M. Kajwang’ can see whether his concerns have been addressed in the New Schedule? You will get a copy just now and you can confirm that you are comfortable with the proposed New Schedule as amended. Sen. M. Kajwang’,...

Chairperson, Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries, that concern is valid.

Sen. Cherarkey, business is not conducted like that. I am in charge. I am the one to request you whether you want to be informed.

You can proceed. He has accepted

Chairperson, you are the one to justify that, though maybe they are tapping into the big brains, which are in Kisumu for the cane development.

Sen. Wamatinga, just hold a bit, so that we hear what Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale has.

Proceed, Senate Majority Leader.

In view of all those submissions, it appears as though the Chair’s work has been eased by Members in their arguments, by justifying operational zones vis-à-vis governance zones. That would mean that since you are comfortable with operational zones remaining as such and governance zones remaining for purposes of elections,...

Division will be at the end. The Title and Clause 1 (Question, that the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end.

Chairperson of the Committee, you have heard the request. Could you make an undertaking on whether you have been updated on the consensus position?

Chairperson, you will get the redrafted Clause 19A and B. We are not ready to proceed from that point. Proceed, Sen. Wafula.

Sen. M. Kajwang’, initially, we had deferred the reporting of progress by the Committee of the Whole on The County Boundaries Bill (Senate Bills No.6 of 2023) . I now invite you to move.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The County Boundaries Bill (Senate Bills No.6 of 2023) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Sugar Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2022) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

Sen. Eric Okongó Omogeni.

Would you like to be informed?

Sen. M. Kajwang’, you can inform him.

Proceed, Senator.

Sen. Methu, do you want to give yourself the Floor when the Chair is holding the House?

Sen. Methu, you will have a balance of 10 minutes when the next sitting resumes. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

(Loud consultations)

The time is up. I will give you one minute to second.

Senators, please let him say it for himself.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I want to thank Sen. Kavindu Muthama for bringing this Motion which is key. Right now, Kenyans are suffering because of floods and lots of water. Bridges have been washed, roads have been destroyed, homes have been flooded and people...

Your time is up. Sen. Beth Syengo, you have the Floor.

Sen. Beth Syengo, clarify whether what you said is to mean that the Government should stop the rains and floods.

Sen. Beth Syengo, please respond to the issue the Speaker has directed you to. Do not respond to other issues to countermand the point of order.

Sen. Cherarkey, hold your peace as she clarifies.

Sen. Cherarkey, maintain silence. Sen. Beth Syengo, you have been specifically requested to respond to whether you have said the Government should stop floods and rains. Respond to that.

Sen. Beth Syengo, your time is up. Resume your seat.

Sen. Cherarkey, all issues have been clarified, including that Sen. Beth Syengo knows where your home is. Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

Your time is up, Senator. Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed.

Your time is up, Senator. Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Crystal Asige.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to support this Motion. As I support it, I believe that the intent and spirit in asking for timely disbursement of funds from the Government is that the government being spoken about is the county government. I derive my assertion...

Thank you, Sen. Asige. Sen. John Methu.

Sen. Cherarkey, you should be paying more attention even though it is the end of the day.

Thank you, Senator. Yes, your time is over. Sen. Osotsi.

The time is up. Hon. Senators, due to the importance of this Motion and what is happening in the nation, under Standing Order No.34 (2) (a) , I will exercise the discretion to give an extra time for debating of this Motion to enable about two or three Senators to...

Thank you, Senator, for keeping it short. Senator Beatrice Ogola?

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Mariam Omar, I hope you will share the remaining time with Sen. Thang’wa.

Proceed Sen. Thang’wa.

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.42

Thank you, Senator. Proceed Sen. Chute.

Senator, your time is up. Sen. Okiya Omtatah, proceed.

Your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Betty Montet.

Thank you, hon. Senator. This is a Motion that was brought under Standing Order 37, and it does not require that a question be put at the end of the debate. Therefore, that brings us to the end of the discussion on this Motion. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now...

Thank you, Hon. Majority Leader. The time for comments on Statements has lapsed. However, I will add in just maybe two or three minutes. Sen. Osotsi?

Thank you Sen. Osotsi. Sen. Cherarkey, you may proceed.

Sen. Cherarkey, would you like to be informed by your colleague, Sen. Osotsi?

It is overtaken by time; you take him up at another opportunity because he has already resumed his seat. You will have another chance, maybe when he goes up again.

No, he does not want to be informed. He must be on the Floor. Sen. Gloria Orwoba will be the last person to speak on this. For a very few minutes, Senator, you may proceed, so that we move on to the next Order.

Thank you, hon. Senators. That is the end of the Statement and debates on the Statements Hour. I will now re- organise the Order Paper and ask the Clerk to call Order No.17. THE NATIONAL RATING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.55 OF 2022) Proceed, Senate Majority Leader.

Thank you, Majority Leader. Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Thank you, Senator. (Question proposed) It is now time to engage in a debate on this Bill. I invite Sen. Omogeni to commence.

Thank you, Senator. I hope EACC is watching the proceedings, with specific reference to the T-junction concept by the Senate Majority Leader and the Senators who have contributed. Let us have Sen. Orwoba Magoma Gloria.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Gloria, you can resume.

Thank you, Sen. Gloria. I will give Sen. Catherine Mumma a chance to contribute. Sen. Catherine, are you going to exhaust your 15 minutes?

Thank you, Sen. Mumma. Sen. Cherarkey, you may proceed.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Tobiko, you have the Floor.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The delegation from Murang’a County, I want to take this opportunity to welcome you to the Senate. We are delighted to have you here. Earlier on, we had very fruitful engagements with you at the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights (JLAHRC)...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing regarding the recent state of horrific traffic accidents in many parts of the country. In the Statement, the Committee should-

Madam Temporary Speaker, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, there is a more elaborate proposal that has been made in respect of this same Clause and so, I wish to withdraw what has been proposed in Order Paper and the same amendment be dropped. (Proposed amendment to Clause 4 by

Hon. Senators, I will now propose the question. (Question proposed) CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS THE COFFEE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 10 OF 2023

Next Order. Proceed, Sen. Wafula Wakoli.

The Bill also has an element of arbitration. The Chief Justice (CJ) has the opportunity to select a team to arbitrate cases of misunderstanding, mitigate conflict among stakeholders and bring sanity to the industry.Madam Temporary Speaker, the Bill introduces the Sugar Board, which at some point, disappeared from existence. The...

Apologies for that Senators.

Who is seconding?

I invite the Mover to proceed and move.

The division will be at the end. THE FOOD AND FEED SAFETY CONTROL CO-ORDINATION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 21 OF 2023) I invite the Chairperson of the Food and Feed Safety Control Co-Ordination Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 21 of 2023) to report.

I invite the Mover to proceed.

The division will be at the end. I invite the Mover to proceed and request for Third Reading.

Thank you, Sen. Tabitha Keroche. (Question proposed) Division will be at the end. Hon. Senators, we will now move to the next Bill. The Chairperson, Sen. Wakili Sigei is to report on the Parliamentary Powers and Privileges (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.37 of 2023). THE PARLIAMENTARY POWERS AND PRIVILEGES (AMENDMENT)...

I call upon the Mover.

I call upon the Mover to proceed and move it for Third Reading.

The division will be at the end. I invite the Chairperson to report on the Public Service (Values and Principles) (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.46 of 2022) . THE PUBLIC SERVICE (VALUES AND PRINCIPLES) (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.46 OF 2022)

Thank you, Sen. Wakili Sigei. I invite the Mover to proceed.

Who is seconding?

Turn on the microphone for Sen. Thang’wa to second.

I invite the Mover.

Please give him the microphone.

Division will be at the end. Serjeant-at-Arms, can you ring the Division Bell for five minutes. (The Division Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, you can stop the bell, draw the bars and close the doors. We will vote electronically. Hon. Senators, you may settle down so that we can proceed to...

Sen. Mo Fire, I know it is late in the day and your energies may be going down, but there is no Speaker, Sir, right now. It is me on the Chair.

Proceed.

Hon. Senators, I will now propose the question. (Question proposed) There is one request from Sen. Cherarkey. Sen. Cherarkey, have you dropped that request? (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) It was a mistake. Hon. Senators, I see no request to debate on this Motion. So, I now put the Question....

Sen. Wafula, when we resume you will have a balance of 54 minutes to proceed with the Motion that you are moving right now. ADJOURNMENT