OUNDO, WILBERFORCE OJIAMBO

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to sincerely thank and congratulate Mama Florence for the good service she has offered to the Parliament of Kenya. I first met Florence when I came to Parliament in 2017 during the induction. I again met her when I went to...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I support the Report of the Committee on Delegated Legislation on the recommendation to nullify, in its entirety, the Privileges and Immunities (The Global Centre on Adaptation) Order (Legal Notice No. 82 of 2025) based on the facts that have been presented to us by...

Thank you. Let me join my colleague in supporting the Energy (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No. 42 of 2023) as moved with the proposed amendments. Let me also commend the Secretary-General of the biggest party, Edwin Sifuna, for thinking through it so that it comes through the Bill that has...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also join my colleagues in lauding the Leader of the Majority Party for expeditiously bringing a Report to the House to expound on this vexatious issue of our young men and women going to fight wars they have no interest in and getting killed....

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Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to also make a comment on the Report by the Public Petition Committee regarding the pollution of River Athi as requested by Hon. Musyoka, Member for Mwala. As we have always said, rivers are literally the life of many communities. Rivers feed...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you for this opportunity. First of all, when I saw the title of the Bill, my heart almost left my chest because the Fire and Rescue Services Professionals' Bill... I admit I am an old school who went to school when schools were schools. Do you...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me join my colleagues in commenting on the Report by the Public Petitions Committee. I want to correct my colleague, Hon. TJ Kajwang’. I have adult children and now other children, the phase three. That is how life goes on. I speak for those...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also join my colleague, Hon. Atandi in welcoming the students from Maranda High School to this august House. I do so on two accounts. First, my second born went through Maranda High School. I am a very proud father of the boy. Second, we...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Madam Speaker, I am gender-sensitive. You know, last time we used to joke with the other Speaker and say, “Madam Speaker, Sir.” But here I am very well aware. Allow me to also support the Report by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. For those of us who have been here a little longer, the first university in this country was the University of Nairobi. The rest of the universities were constituent colleges of the University of Nairobi and later broke out during Moi’s time to become universities....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, let me rephrase my statement. I am rephrasing my statement that, since time immemorial, there has only been one premier university, the University of Nairobi. Others came after the University of Nairobi. The University of Nairobi birthed these universities. That is a historical fact. However much you...

No, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Being a father and having left a lecture hall… You have to start by withdrawing. Yes, that is what I want to do. I know that you have a lot of experience, and you can keep us here up to Six O’clock debating this matter. So,...

Fine. Let me withdraw for record purposes, so that I do not hurt the feelings of Members and so that we do not miss the focus of the debate. 12th February 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27

We had already closed that chapter. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, I would like you to withdraw the statement that you made. I did, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like you to withdraw. Fine, I withdraw. I have already done that. Proceed. I have already done that. Many of us remember the...

I am very passionate about where I went to school. I will always refer to the place in whatever I do. That is why I was telling the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning that he probably found it incomplete until he has gone somewhere. That...

In any case, the report of the National Dialogue Committee (NADCO) and the 10-Point Agenda establishing the amorphous ‘Broad- Based Government’ make reference to the opening up of the ‘server.’ I am not talking about Hon. KJ’s server. Let me conclude… Hon. Oundo, I had given you a chance to...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, at no time did I ever talk about chang'aa brewers. In Funyula Constituency, we do not have chang'aa brewers, we only have brewers of enguri. Thank you.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to the Health (Amendment) Bill 2024 by our colleague, Hon. Jane Njeri Maina. Issues of medical cover, health and the rest have remained, and will always remain, very emotive and, at times, emotionally draining. On the face of...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also thank the Majority side for the Statement. I also take this opportunity to wish Team Kenya success in the games in Uganda. I have seen a very colourful special edition. It says: Go for more titles, Speaker Wetang’ula rallies Team Kenya ahead of 2025...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I do not wish to compete with owners of the language. Allow me to raise my point of order in the language I was taught at Starehe Boys Centre School and Bujwang’a Primary School. I understand a bit of Kiswahili, and in any case, I...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have keenly listened to the experts in this field, Hon. Raso and Hon. Bashir. I have also listened to a diplomat, who is probably a student of diplomacy. But let me get to the point. I primarily align with the Committee's recommendations. There is...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to commend my colleague for bringing this Petition before the Public Petitions Committee of the National Assembly. The issue of land fraud that is perpetrated by unknown hands, both in the Judiciary, the legal profession and my own profession, is becoming...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have heard the Cabinet Secretary talk about monopoly and dominant players in the market. I want to bring to his attention that the entire Busia County and the neighbouring region have only one sugar company, Busia Sugar Company. They are indeed involved in some very...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have a very interesting case on this matter. I sponsored a Bill. It went all the way to Second Reading in February. For some strange reason, or because of the busy schedule of the House Business Committee, it has never been slated. Which Bill is...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to also contribute to the debate on the Sessional Paper No.5 of 2023 on the National Policy on Labour Migration. It is true that there must be labour mobility both internally and externally. That is a given fact. If you...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Order, Hon. Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, what is out of order? The Leader of the Majority Party is extremely out of order. I do not politic without facts. I cannot say anything on the Floor of the House...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the Public Finance Management (Government Press Fund) Regulations, 2025. I want to go on record as a Member of the Committee on Delegated Legislation in the 12th Parliament. Hon. Chepkonga was not in the 12th Parliament. (Hon....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. In my early years, I was a very active sports person until I fractured my foot in old age. I no longer involve myself in any sport because I fear further injuries. I join the Committee in supporting its recommendation to adopt its report on...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the first Kenyan to win a gold medal in boxing was Wangila, from Funyula Constituency and was a cousin to my grandmother. I warn Hon. Chepkonga .… Wangila had a big issue because he had converted to Islam. Yes. They wanted to bury him in the traditional...

Okay, thank you. (Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for your indulgence. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) C, I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour regarding the reported assault of a Kenyan worker by a foreign national at the TCA Mabati...

On a point of information. Just a moment, Hon. Elisha. Are you on a point of order or a point of information? I want to indulge my close friend and beseech him that he allows me to give him a point of information for record purposes.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I do not want to digress on what we go through at the university but I want to go on record on this. This has been peddled here so many times, which is incorrect. If you refer to the website of the Central Bank of...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, given a minute or so, I can research.