OUNDO, WILBERFORCE OJIAMBO

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I would like the Prime Cabinet Secretary (PCS) to explain the delays in the operationalisation of the Muluanda Border Crossing Point in Funyula Constituency. His Excellency the late President Mwai Kibaki commissioned it on 28th March 2009. There is the subsequent presidential directive of 14th June...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Reassure Hon. Atandi that he should not get goosebumps when he sees me standing. I am just doing my work as per Article 95 of the Constitution. By practice, we have always had supplementary budgets. When the current Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and...

On a point of order. Yes, Hon. Oundo, what is your point of order? Hon. Speaker, I am just curious, and I want Hon. Kaluma, being a lawyer of eminence, to explain to me: what are the requirements of citizenship of Kenya? Is building a road the only requirement for...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of the people of Funyula Constituency, let the people of Ol Kalou and Kirinyaga receive our condolences following the passing on of Hon. Kiaraho and Senator Karaba. The 13th Parliament has been very frightening. We hope and pray that the bad hand does not...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me take this opportunity sincerely to thank the Committee on Delegated Legislation for reviewing and approving the Public Finance Management (Public Prosecution Fund) Regulations published as Legal Notice No. 169 of 2025. We used to have the adage “justice delayed is justice denied” when...

Thank you, Hon Speaker. Pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Energy regarding the operations of KUDURA Power East Africa in Western Kenya. KUDURA Power East Africa Limited is a Kenyan enterprise specialising...

Hon. Speaker, with your benevolence, can we also joyride and add one more question? Which one? I have an issue that has remained pending for so many years in my constituency, concerning the construction of a border crossing point. At Muluanda? Yes, Muluanda. Good. You know. It has remained pending...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me state from the outset that the government has no business being in business. That has been my mantra all along. The government has no business being in business. As my colleagues have said, this is not the first time the government has divested or...

Hon. Speaker, I just read the statement verbatim. They are not my words. I am not even finished, so I do not know what the point of concern is. You read further and said… Yes, I was proceeding, Hon. Speaker. Go ahead. I want to go to the Committee Report,...

Let me conclude, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, I also went to school. I have a PhD in Land Economics (Evaluation of Financial Assets) , so there is nothing you can teach me that I do not know. But given the matter as it is, we should listen to the concerns of the people of Kenya....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the onset, let me make it very clear that I am a member of the Institution of Surveyors of Kenya (ISK) and a senior valuer in this country. The National Land Commission (NLC) operates within the realm of the land sector. Obviously, the ISK...

Are we really being…

He has asked me to substantiate. None of those members are members of the Institute of Surveyors of Kenya (ISK) , the professional body that regulates all the professionals in the land sector. I can go on record on this. None of them. Secondly, by the repeated... (Loud consultations)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have interacted with these nominees. They are not being disclosed for the very first time on the Floor today. Their names were bandied and presented here. We have had our own time to do background checks. You cannot populate a purely professional commission...

The framers of the Act were not out of the moon. They knew the mandate of the commission as set out in the Constitution. That is why in their framing and their language, they have repeatedly used land professionals. Repeatedly! It would have been expected, as has happened in the...

Of course. You know, Dr Nyikal and I are the veterans in this House. So, we understand these matters. I can, therefore, allow him to inform me.

Hon. Temporary Speaker…

Let me wind up.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is a very good debate we could have… You have two minutes. This is a very good debate we could have in other forums so that we conclude this matter. Stakeholders have raised valid concerns. I am surprised that the Chairman does not seem to know...

As much as we want to fall back into technicalities and shouting matches, the fact remains that we have been presented with what appears to be an incompetent Commission. Period!

Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is good that I conclude so that other Members can contribute. These interventions are unnecessary even though they are very good for the debate. I will reiterate. We might have examined the law and concluded that since the provision uses the word “or”, we could as...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the Division of Revenue Bill, which is a routine annual Bill as provided for in the Constitution of Kenya, 2010. As I support, allow me to make two comments on the same. I want to reiterate the words...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support. As I support, allow me to commend the Committee and the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party for listening to the concerns we raised. They have literally done justice to the Bill and will continue doing justice to it. May the Almighty God bless you...

Hon. Chairlady, the problem with this country is that people like selling fear. As we always say, we have no money to buy fear. We are broke. So, Leader of the Majority Party, do not sell to us fear. We have no money to buy fear. We are broke. (Laughter)

I have received the information gladly. As we debate, normally at any given time, all Departmental Committees are expected to receive reports on budget performance and output on quarterly basis. We need to tie up around that line so that as we legislate, we do not double-legislate on what already...

Once again, I support and ask the Almighty God to bless the Leader of the Majority Party and the Hon. Chairman of the Committee. For record purposes, what we normally debate here is the Bill as published. The Committee Report is only meant to support and widen our thinking. Ahsante...

Of course, I am a happy man today. Once we finish, I will carry the Chairperson, and we will go to where we normally go. (Laughter) THAT, the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after Clause 5- 5A. (1) There is established a Governing Council of...

Yes, I just wanted to draw to the attention of the Chairperson and the Leader of the Majority Party that it probably could have been a bit neater, in view of the importance of this Fund and the Board, if those being appointed under Clause 5B (d) were staggered, so...

Even Sir George wants to say something. He has been quiet for long. I totally support the amendments. Hon. Chairlady, probably we could also think through, and Sir George will guide us. What if the person misappropriated the funds and went to piga sherehe and has got nothing to pay?...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me join my colleagues in commenting on the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) for the Financial Year 2026/2027, set before us by virtue of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act that sets out ceiling limits for each sector of the economy.Ideally, a BPS should set...

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provision of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour regarding a reported assault of a Kenyan worker by a foreign national at the TCM Mabati Factory in Eldoret.Hon. Speaker, one...

Hon. Speaker, for the opportunity to also comment on the National Infrastructure Fund Bill, 2025. Without doubt, the need for the Infrastructure Fund, or for this Act of Parliament, cannot be gainsaid. However, there are a few fundamental issues, and I want the owners of the Bill to listen very...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. In view of the great importance of the Bill under consideration, I just want to ask the Leader of the Majority Party to indulge the Members considering that we have spent the whole morning in the requiem mass of our colleague. A number of our colleagues...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker for this opportunity to comment on the Miscellaneous Fees and Levies (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 57 of 2025) . This is nothing new. We are just transitioning from a regulation to an Act of Parliament. I am not convinced of its rationale. What...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also stand here to support the Report by the Public Debt and Privatisation Committee on the MTDMS for Financial Years 2026/2027 to 2028/2029. The Strategy provides that domestic borrowing will account for 82 per cent and external borrowing will account for 18 per...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order, Hon. (Dr) Wilberforce Oundo? With reference to the young…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to contribute to the Teachers Service Commission (Amendment) Bill 2024. I must admit from the word go that during my first and second years at university, I worked as a teacher in a secondary school. I also spent many years in the...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let us read this in plain English. There is no need for sugar-coating. The amendment relates to section 32 of the original Bill, which discusses the publication of the register of registered teachers. It does not talk about appointments in administrative positions. For the record,...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also join my colleagues in supporting the Report of the Departmental Committee on Labour on its approval of Mr. Francis Meja as the Chairperson of the Public Service Commission. As Sir George has put it, we interacted with Meja many times during my time...

Hon. Speaker, I came much earlier but Hon. Kaluma engaged me on stories from the United States of America. Some of us rely on him to give us stories. That is improper use of parliamentary time. Okay. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I just want an assurance from the Cabinet Secretary...

Hon. Speaker, I had already spoken to this. I was the first person to speak to it.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I sit on the Committee and have served in the Public Accounts Committee since 2020. I have seen much, heard much and examined much. As we often say, and I repeat, this country is not performing poorly because it lacks resources. It is performing poorly...

On a point of order.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Please do not tell me to speak in Kiswahili. Kiswahili sio mdomo changu. I rise on a point of order on the issue of relevance. We are debating the accounts for the National Government entities. What the Member is talking about is a county government....