David Ouma Ochieng'

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng')Go ahead, Hon. Chairperson.

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng')This now has to go to the vote. (Question, that the word to be left out be left out, put and agreed to) (Question, that the word to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)

Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)Hon. Baya should tell us how those guys who garnishee the accounts get to know that there is money in the accounts. Be that as it may, I will now put the Question. 25th April 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 26 Hon. Temporary...

Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to indulge you. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)Thank you. Hon. Members, the County Licensing (Uniform Procedure) Bill (Senate Bill No. 9 of 2022), is, therefore, pended until the next time it is put on the Order Paper for consideration in the Committee of the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kwanza.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Tinderet. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Motion by Hon. Obo, Member for Lamu. This is a timely Motion noting that we have recently had a spate of accidents involving our military aircrafts. The Motion before us seeks...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Member for Sirisia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I do not know what you have not said that makes only you know what you are laughing at. The Member for Gilgil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Malava.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Member Turkana West, Hon.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Vyema, na ahsante. Sasa twende Samburu West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is the Member for Sigowet/Soin. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to add my voice to this important Motion. At the outset, I give my full support to this Motion that...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member, you did not say anything about the Motion. We will now have the Member for Shinyalu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Buuri Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, join me in welcoming in the Public Gallery, a group of students from various universities in Starehe Constituency. They have come to follow the proceedings of Parliament today. They are welcome this afternoon. Thank you. (Applause)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Member for Luanda.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Kisauni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Dawood, this was your chance but you keep on fidgeting and raising your hands. That is why I have not given you a chance to contribute. If you sit down and keep your cool, you will get your chance. It does not work...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Vyema. Member for North Imenti.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Isiolo South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kwale. Hon. Masito, this is your opportunity.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kilifi North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Ndindi, I want you to listen to Hon. Baya because he is speaking to you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Hon. Member for Mosop. Hon. Ruku, your chance will come definitely.(Hon. Ruku stood up in his place)(Technical hitch)Hon. Ruku, you are out of order totally. Resume your seat. Hon. Member for Mosop, come and use this microphone that is on.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Nyeri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Migori County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order, Hon. Geoffrey Ruku?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That will pass.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Mbeere North, this is your chance to contribute to this Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to the Member for Narok North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Sotik. Hon. Elisha, you have to put your card in. You will not get a chance to speak if you do not have a card. You can be sure about that. Just go up there, and they will give you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Gem.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, allow me to welcome the Africa Youth Leadership Forum officials to the Speaker’s Gallery. This is a forum consisting of Secretary-Generals of universities in the country, including – it is a long list – Brian Wekesa, St. Pauls University; Christopher...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') How many minutes are you giving, Hon. Ruweida? Call all the Members out so that we know them. You have mentioned Hon. Antony Oluoch and Hon. Harrison Kombe. Who is the next Member? (An hon. Member spoke off the record) It is her chance...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Oluoch.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kombe. You have a minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Shakeel.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Pauline Lenguris.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ruweida, you have two minutes to wind up. You gave out all your time.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You will get two minutes because that is what you have now.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, the decision on this Motion will be made the next time it is slotted in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE PUBLIC SERVICE INTERNSHIP BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. The Mover...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Samburu West, I hate to interrupt you. I know you are on a roll already, but you will pick it up from there the next time this business is put on the Order Paper. 24th April 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34...

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)This chance then goes to the Member for Mombasa County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you very much. I will now put the Question. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) in the Chair] CONSIDERATION OF SENATE AMENDMENTS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL The Temporary Chairman.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much, Member for Dagoretti North. Before I give the next Member a chance to speak, I would like to recognise and welcome students from Koru Girls Secondary, Muhoroni Constituency, Kisumu County, who are seated in the Public Gallery. We welcome them...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You are a veteran Member. I expect you to do the right thing.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanyonyi, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I can see Hon. Victor Koech. Hon. Ruku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Saku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Samburu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Funyula, do you want to Speak on this? Okay. Member for Gilgil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said, thank you so much. Hon. Members, I note that there is no further interest to speak on this particular Motion. I accordingly call upon the Mover to reply. (Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe consulted loudly) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Member for...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ruku (Hon. Wilberforce Oundo spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Oundo. Come on! Go on, Hon. Ruku

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you so much Hon. Ruku. Members, I note the point of order raised by Hon. Ruku. I direct that decision on this Motion will be made in the next sitting, which is Tuesday next week. (Putting of the Question deferred) Before I call...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Go ahead. ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE AUDITOR-GENERAL ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT MINISTRIES, DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES FOR THE FINANCIAL YEAR 2020/2021

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mbadi, there is a point of order that I want to listen to. Hon. Ruku, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. I have been sitting here listening to him. I have not heard him talk about the Kenya Kwanza Government in his statement, at all. Unless you point out what is out of order, I will request that you resume your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ruku, resume your seat. I know that you want to speak on this matter. You will have a chance to contribute to this matter. We will now allow Hon. Mbadi to conclude. What is out of order, Hon. Junet Mohamed? It...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Correct. Let him now do that. You may resume your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') You are moving a Motion for the Financial Year 2020/2021 and not the current one.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I add you one minute so that you can conclude and second.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Question proposed) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Soy.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Go ahead, Hon. Wangwe. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kiplagat, are you reading from the Report or this is a story from somewhere else?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Owen Baya, the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party and Member for Kilifi North, to second the Motion for agreement with...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Chair of the Committee. Sorry. Just a Minute. Let the Chair have a chance.

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Members. (Question proposed) COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) in the Chair] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO. 75 OF 2023)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Members. You may now take your seats. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL (Loud consultations) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order Members. Chairperson.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Betty Maina.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Can you proceed and prosecute your point of order. Remember to address the Hon. Temporary Speaker. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Loud consultations) ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE NATIONAL DIALOGUE COMMITTEE

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mr Point of Order, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Manyatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Molo. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to add my voice to the debate on the NADCO Report. This Report hopes to solve the conflicts that we experience after every election. Sadly, we have to fold our country every...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Magarini.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Ainabkoi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) …Garissa Township.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I will allow each Member one minute to contribute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Robert Basil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Barrow.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover to reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Gatundu South, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next on the board… I am told the card for the Member for Homa Bay County had malfunctioned. This opportunity will go to her. Just give her the microphone wherever she is.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That is the Member of Parliament for Homa Bay County. I hope Hon. Wandayi noted that. The Member for Kwanza, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanyonyi, go ahead with your contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Githunguri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)One minute, Hon. Gathoni

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. I think the Honorable. Member, who is my friend wanted to inform me, but he did not ask me for permission to be informed because I do not think I was out of order. So, next time, do not misuse the Standing...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. (Dr) Nyikal, there is a point of order by the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Leader of the Majority Party, it better be a point of order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Nyikal. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record) Order, Leader of the Majority Party. This is a report of the Bill. The report cannot stand without the Bill; it is a report of the Bill. I believe that the report informed the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Do not get distracted.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We will now have the Member for Jomvu. (Hon. Mishi Mboko spoke off the record)

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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Bady, do you want to be informed by the Leader of the Minority Party?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) One minute.

Nimempa ruhusa anieleze.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Bady, please resume your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I believe he is now informed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Majority Whip, and the Leader of the Majority Party. You will listen to Hon. Bady. Hon. Bady Twalib (Jomvu, ODM) : Mtachukua muda wangu sana. Katika haya ninayosema, nilisikitika sana kwa sababu Jomvu na Changamwe ni kama mjomba na shangazi. Ni maeneo Bunge...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You can use any language.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Igembe South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Yes, Hon. Wanjala. What is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I order that the Quorum Bell be rung for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Loud consultations) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, let us proceed. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Baya, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Baya. Take your seat. Order. Did you use the word chokoras?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mbadi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You have less now.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Baya, allow Hon. Mbadi to finish…

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Members. You have had a very robust debate on this matter this afternoon. Hon. Mbadi will have a balance of four minutes when this business is next slotted for debate. The time being 7.01 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Tuesday,...