OCHIENG DAVID OUMA

Go ahead, Hon. Chairperson.

This now has to go to the vote. (Question, that the word to be left out be left out, put and agreed to) (Question, that the word to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)

Hon. Baya should tell us how those guys who garnishee the accounts get to know that there is money in the accounts. Be that as it may, I will now put the Question. Chairperson of the Committee? Okay. Hon. Chairperson, go ahead.

Thank you. Hon. Members, the County Licensing (Uniform Procedure) Bill (Senate Bill No. 9 of 2022), is, therefore, pended until the next time it is put on the Order Paper for consideration in the Committee of the whole House. SENATE AMENDMENTS TO THE WATER (AMENDMENT) BILL

Member for Kwanza.

Member for Tinderet. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Motion by Hon. Obo, Member for Lamu. This is a timely Motion noting that we have recently had a spate of accidents involving our military aircrafts. The Motion before us seeks to motivate and recognise our military...

Member for Sirisia.

I do not know what you have not said that makes only you know what you are laughing at. The Member for Gilgil.

Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

Thank you. Member for Malava.

Member Turkana West, Hon.

Vyema, na ahsante. Sasa twende Samburu West.

Thank you. Next is the Member for Sigowet/Soin. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to add my voice to this important Motion. At the outset, I give my full support to this Motion that has been brought to the House...

Hon. Member, you did not say anything about the Motion. We will now have the Member for Shinyalu.

Thank you. Member for Buuri Constituency.

Thank you. Hon. Members, join me in welcoming in the Public Gallery, a group of students from various universities in Starehe Constituency. They have come to follow the proceedings of Parliament today. They are welcome this afternoon. Thank you. (Applause)

Thank you. Member for Marakwet West.

Well said. Member for Luanda.

Thank you. Member for Kisauni.

Hon. Dawood, this was your chance but you keep on fidgeting and raising your hands. That is why I have not given you a chance to contribute. If you sit down and keep your cool, you will get your chance. It does not work like that. Hon. Member, go ahead.

Vyema. Member for North Imenti.

Member for Isiolo South.

Member for Kwale. Hon. Masito, this is your opportunity.

Member for Kilifi North.

Hon. Member for Mosop. Hon. Ruku, your chance will come definitely.(Hon. Ruku stood up in his place)(Technical hitch)Hon. Ruku, you are out of order totally. Resume your seat. Hon. Member for Mosop, come and use this microphone that is on.

Thank you. Member for Nyeri.

Thank you. Member for Migori County.

That will pass.

Member for Mbeere North, this is your chance to contribute to this Motion.

This chance goes to the Member for Narok North.

Thank you. Member for Sotik. Hon. Elisha, you have to put your card in. You will not get a chance to speak if you do not have a card. You can be sure about that. Just go up there, and they will give you a temporary card.

Thank you. Member for Gem.

Thank you. Hon. Members, allow me to welcome the Africa Youth Leadership Forum officials to the Speaker’s Gallery. This is a forum consisting of Secretary-Generals of universities in the country, including – it is a long list – Brian Wekesa, St. Pauls University; Christopher Nyakundi Thomas, Kabarak University; Peter Wekesa,...

How many minutes are you giving, Hon. Ruweida? Call all the Members out so that we know them. You have mentioned Hon. Antony Oluoch and Hon. Harrison Kombe. Who is the next Member? (An hon. Member spoke off the record) It is her chance to say what she is giving....

Thank you. Hon. Oluoch.

Hon. Kombe. You have a minute.

Thank you. Hon. Shakeel.

Thank you. Hon. Pauline Lenguris.

Thank you. Hon. Ruweida, you have two minutes to wind up. You gave out all your time.

Thank you. Hon. Members, the decision on this Motion will be made the next time it is slotted in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE PUBLIC SERVICE INTERNSHIP BILL Thank you. The Mover of the Bill is Hon. Naisula Lesuuda.

Hon. Member for Samburu West, I hate to interrupt you. I know you are on a roll already, but you will pick it up from there the next time this business is put on the Order Paper. Hon. Members, the time now being 1.00 p.m., this House stands adjourned until...

It is really difficult to deal with that because the exemption was so that the matter can be considered. The exemption was for the matters in Order 9 so as not to appear today because this morning is for Members' Motions and Bills. We exempted all of them up to...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank Hon. Chepkong’a for coming up with this Bill. In its entire existence of over 200 years, the US Senate and US House of Representatives have never taken each other to court. Whenever any one of them tries to do so, the courts recuse...

Hon. Tindi Mwale.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu.

Before I give a chance to the Member for Uasin Gishu to speak, Hon. Members, join me in welcoming students who are seated in the Public Gallery from Church Army Academy, Makadara Constituency, Nairobi County and children from Kibauni Secondary School, Mwala Constituency, Machakos County. They are welcome to follow...

Member for North Imenti. Hon. Rahim Dawood (North Imenti, Independent) ; Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me, first, congratulate Hon. Chepkong’a for bringing this Bill. This Bill is very timely in the sense that it will fix the relation problems between the two Houses of Parliament. I have gone...

Next is the Member for Seme Constituency.

Hon. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party and Hon. Samwel Chepkong’a, could you, please, consult in low tones so that we can hear the Hon. Member for Seme Constituency?

Next is the Member for Baringo County.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Division of Revenue Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.14 of 2024) , and approved the same without amendments.

Hon. Ombaka, you have the opportunity to contribute.

Hon. Babu Owino.

Hon. Jackson Kosgei.

Thank you. Member for Garissa Township.

Member for Dagoretti North.

Members, I wish to welcome student leaders from Kenyatta University who are seated in the Speakers’ Gallery this afternoon. I also wish to extend my condolences to them and to their school for the loss of their colleagues in a tragic accident that happened on Monday, 17th March 2024 at...

Thank you. Member for Busia.

Hon. Members, the time being 1.00

This chance then goes to the Member for Mombasa County.

Thank you very much. I will now put the Question. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) in the Chair] CONSIDERATION OF SENATE AMENDMENTS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL The Temporary Chairman. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to...

I call upon the Mover to move reporting on the Land (Amendment) Bill (No.40 of 2022) .

Thank you. Mover.

Thank you. (Question proposed)

Hon. Rachael Nyamai. What is out of order? (Hon. Rachael Nyamai spoke off record) We are still on the Land (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.40 of 2022).Go ahead Mheshimiwa.

Okay. Hon. Baya.

Hon. Kihara.

Hon. Baya.

Member for Samburu East.

Hon. Phylis Bartoo, on this matter, right?

Thank you. Let us have Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. I rise to support this. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have to live in the modern world. We cannot continue to do things in the old way. Climate monitoring and focusing are extremely important. There...

Member for Mogotio.

Hon. Members, there being no further interest in this matter, I now call upon the Mover to reply. Hon. Caroli Omondi, you have just slotted in your card. Do you want to speak on this? Okay. Go ahead.

Thank you. Member for Ganze

Thank you. The Member for Kitutu Chache North, Hon. Japheth Nyakundi.

Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

Member for Rarieda Constituency, do you want to speak on this Motion? (Hon. (Dr) Otiende Amollo gestured in the negative) That probably marks the end of the debate on this Motion. I will call upon the Mover of this Motion to reply. Hon. Abdul Haro.

Hon. Makali, I advise you to go up there and get a card. It is not here. That is why I have not given you a chance so far. I cannot see it. Hon. Dorothy Ikiara, go ahead.

Thank you very much, Member for Dagoretti North. Before I give the next Member a chance to speak, I would like to recognise and welcome students from Koru Girls Secondary, Muhoroni Constituency, Kisumu County, who are seated in the Public Gallery. We welcome them to follow the proceedings of the...

Hon. Wanyonyi, go ahead.

I can see Hon. Victor Koech. Hon. Ruku.

Thank you. Member for Saku.

Thank you. Member for Samburu East.

Member for Funyula, do you want to Speak on this? Okay. Member for Gilgil.

Well said, thank you so much. Hon. Members, I note that there is no further interest to speak on this particular Motion. I accordingly call upon the Mover to reply. (Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe consulted loudly) Order, Member for Navakholo. Go ahead, Hon. Pukose.

Thank you. Hon. Ruku (Hon. Wilberforce Oundo spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Oundo. Come on! Go on, Hon. Ruku

Thank you so much Hon. Ruku. Members, I note the point of order raised by Hon. Ruku. I direct that decision on this Motion will be made in the next sitting, which is Tuesday next week. (Putting of the Question deferred) Before I call for the next Order, I wish...

Go ahead. ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE AUDITOR-GENERAL ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT MINISTRIES, DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES FOR THE FINANCIAL YEAR 2020/2021

Hon. Mbadi, there is a point of order that I want to listen to. Hon. Ruku, what is out of order?

Order. I have been sitting here listening to him. I have not heard him talk about the Kenya Kwanza Government in his statement, at all. Unless you point out what is out of order, I will request that you resume your seat.

Thank you. Hon. Ruku, resume your seat. I know that you want to speak on this matter. You will have a chance to contribute to this matter. We will now allow Hon. Mbadi to conclude. What is out of order, Hon. Junet Mohamed? It should not be on what Hon....

Correct. Let him now do that. You may resume your seat.

Thank you. Hon. Oundo.

Thank you. (Question proposed) Member for Soy.

Order! Go ahead, Hon. Wangwe. (Laughter)

Hon. Kiplagat, are you reading from the Report or this is a story from somewhere else?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. I agree with Hon. Oundo on one thing. This affordable housing scheme will either succeed or fall depending on the discipline with which we implement it. Once we pass this, as a House, we must ensure that our oversight is laser-focused and no single cent...

Mover. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Owen Baya, the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party and Member for Kilifi North, to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of...

Thank you. Chair of the Committee. Sorry. Just a Minute. Let the Chair have a chance. be amended by inserting the words “subject to recommittal of Clause 41.”I request Hon. Njeri, the County Member of Parliament for Kirinyaga to second.

Thank you, Members. (Question proposed) COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) in the Chair] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO. 75 OF 2023)

Order, Hon. Members. You may now take your seats. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL (Loud consultations) Order Members. Chairperson.

Mover.

Hon. Betty Maina.

Mover.

Thank you. (Loud consultations) ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE NATIONAL DIALOGUE COMMITTEE

Member for Manyatta.

Member for Molo. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to add my voice to the debate on the NADCO Report. This Report hopes to solve the conflicts that we experience after every election. Sadly, we have to fold our country every time we go for elections because...

Member for Magarini.

Member for Ainabkoi.

Hon. Robert Basil.

Barrow.

Mover to reply.