OCHIENG DAVID OUMA

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. Governments the world over get defined by the things they do during the time citizens give them to govern. Governments come to power with their plans. This Government has decided it will rise or fall with this thing—that they will make sure...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, that is what a responsible opposition does. It does not just oppose for the sake of opposing. Opposition that is responsible provides solutions. We do not just say this is wrong. You tell us how to do it right. In this Bill, I believe that instead of...

Thank you. Next on the board… I am told the card for the Member for Homa Bay County had malfunctioned. This opportunity will go to her. Just give her the microphone wherever she is.

That is the Member of Parliament for Homa Bay County. I hope Hon. Wandayi noted that. The Member for Kwanza, proceed.

Member for Githunguri.

One minute, Hon. Gathoni

Thank you. I think the Honorable. Member, who is my friend wanted to inform me, but he did not ask me for permission to be informed because I do not think I was out of order. So, next time, do not misuse the Standing Orders. As I conclude, allow me...

Hon. (Dr) Nyikal, there is a point of order by the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Leader of the Majority Party, it better be a point of order.

Order, Hon. Nyikal. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record) Order, Leader of the Majority Party. This is a report of the Bill. The report cannot stand without the Bill; it is a report of the Bill. I believe that the report informed the debate on the Bill. Therefore, I...

We will now have the Member for Jomvu. (Hon. Mishi Mboko spoke off the record)

Hon. Bady, do you want to be informed by the Leader of the Minority Party?

I believe he is now informed.

Order, Majority Whip, and the Leader of the Majority Party. You will listen to Hon. Bady. Hon. Bady Twalib (Jomvu, ODM) : Mtachukua muda wangu sana. Katika haya ninayosema, nilisikitika sana kwa sababu Jomvu na Changamwe ni kama mjomba na shangazi. Ni maeneo Bunge yaliyopakana. Katika mpango huu, Mhe. Omar...

Thank you. Member for Igembe South.

I order that the Quorum Bell be rung for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Loud consultations) Hon. Members, let us proceed. (Loud consultations)

Member for Marakwet West.

Hon. Baya, what is out of order?

Hon. Mbadi.

Thank you, Hon. Members. You have had a very robust debate on this matter this afternoon. Hon. Mbadi will have a balance of four minutes when this business is next slotted for debate. The time being 7.01 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Tuesday, 20th February 2024 at 2.30 p.m....

This is your chance, Hon….

The next chance goes to Hon. Jayne Kihara if she is in the House. (Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose and several other Members raised their hands) Do not raise your hands. This is not a high school. Hon. Julius Rutto, Member for Kesses.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Which other debate is this? Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I said that financial matters are difficult. Understanding divestiture and investments may be difficult for many people. Do not go there. (Laughter)Committee on Finance and National Planning who is making insinuations behind my back. I Where is Hon. David Kiplagat?...

Thank you. Hon. Kaguchia.

Hon. Beatrice, do you want to comment on this?

Hon. Farah.

Thank you. Any Member of the Departmental Committee on Housing, Public Works and Urban Development?

Next Order. NOTING OF REPORT OF THE KENYAN DELEGATION TO THE 4TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE EAPA-FSN IN KIGALI, RWANDA Do you have a card with you?

Who is the seconder?

Hon. Members, I take it that those whose names appear want to contribute to this. The first chance will then go to the Hon. Charles Kamuren. He is the Chairperson of the Food Security Caucus in the country.

Member for Buuri.

Thank you. The Member from Mombasa, Hon. Zamzam Chimba.

Hon. Njeri Maina, Member for Kirinyaga.

Hon. Odanga, Member for Matayos.

Hon. Wakili Muriu.

Thank you Members, for your industriousness and patience during the Committee of the whole House. I call on the Temporary Chairlady to report to the House.

Putting of the Question on the Report of the House on the National Lottery Bill is deferred to Tuesday afternoon next week. ADOPTION OF SESSIONAL PAPER NO.2 OF 2023: THE NATIONAL TAX POLICY Members, debate on this Motion started this morning and it is ongoing. The Mover had already moved...

The Leader of the Majority Party and Member for Kikuyu. We keep losing Kikuyu as a constituency.

Well said, Leader of the Majority Party. I need to inform you that all of us are waiting for the day you will announce the members of the State capture commission. You keep on talking about it. Everyone is asking when it will be appointed. The Member for Karachuonyo, Hon....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Senate amendments to the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill (National Assembly Bill No.23 of 2023) and approved the same with amendments.

Nafasi hii itaenda kwa Mbunge wa Kitui Rural, Mhe. David Mboni.

Member for Kitui Rural, your time is up. This is now the chance for the Member for Mandera West.

Member for Kaiti.

Next is the Member for Kisii, Hon. Donya Dorice.

Thank you. Member for Laikipia East. The next to speak is Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri. Your microphone has a problem. Use the one in front of you.

Thank you. Peugeot 504.

Thank you. Next is Hon. Farah Maalim, EGH.

I have no comment on that, Hon. Farah. Next is Hon. Salasya.

There are two Members remaining who want to contribute to the Motion. I request the next speaker to mind the Member speaking after him, so that all of us can contribute. Member for Sotik.

Member for Rangwe, please, make your point in two minutes.

Hon. Members, there being no other Member interested in speaking to the Motion, I request the Mover to reply.

The Question on this Motion will be put the next time the House sits. (Putting of the Question deferred) ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time being 7.00

Hon. Rindikiri.

Hon. Oluoch.

Thank you. Hon. Melly.

Hon. Oundo.

Okay, Hon. Melly. He says your left hand has given to your right hand and then you have put your right hand on the back.

No, he listened to you. He has said in the education sector, the right hand has not taken away from the left hand. In fact, both hands have received Ksh5 billion. (Programmes 0505000, 0507000 and 0508000 agreed to) (Vote 1064 agreed to) VOTE 1065 - STATE DEPARTMENT FOR HIGHER EDUCATION...

Member for Molo.

Thank you. (Programmes 0201000, 0203000, 0204000, 0205000 and 0216000 agreed to) (Vote 1092 agreed to) VOTE 1093 - STATE DEPARTMENT FOR SHIPPING AND MARITIME AFFAIRS VOTE 1094 - STATE DEPARTMENT FOR HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’): Hon. Oundo.

Hon. Members, I would like to listen to you contributing. Several of you are consulting with me at the same time. One is on this side of my ear and another one on the other side. Allow me to listen to those contributing so that I also get to know...

I am sure the Chairperson of the Committee is listening. In future, we need to review what we ask from nominees. Member for Mandera South.

Hon. Members, from where I sit, I can read the mood of the House. Hon. (Dr) Pukose, you are my friend, but for the first time, I disagree with you on this matter. We will allow a few more and then the Mover will be called because the same Standing...

Hon. Caleb Amisi.

You are out of order. Hon. Mwengi Mutuse (Kibwezi West, MCCP) Because I had not finished. You are out of order.

Hon. Ali Raso.

Let us have the Member for Taita Taveta.

Ahsante sana. This chance goes to the Member for Kajiado South. (Hon. Members consulted loudly) I have done four on this side. I have not done a single on this Minority side. Allow this side also to have a chance to say something.

Member for Embakasi East.

Member for Keiyo South.

Thank you. Member for Igembe South.

Member for Tinderet.

Member for Navakholo.

Hon. (Dr.) Jackson Kosgei. (Loud consultations)

Thank you. Next is the Member for Tigania West.

The Member for Kwanza.

Thank you. Finally, let us have the Leader of the Majority Party.

Mover.

Very well Chairperson. Hon. Members, I beg to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. THE CANCER PREVENTION AND CONTROL (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL Hon. Rahim.

Thank you. Hon. Marianne Kitany.

Member for Mosop, Hon. Abraham Kirwa.

Hon. Naomi Waqo, do you want to speak on this? Hon. Kirima.

Hon. Kirima, I hate to interrupt you, but the time is 1.00 p.m. You will have the balance of your time, when the Bill is placed next in the Order Paper for debate. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time being 1.00

Can I have the microphone? Let us have Hon. Kuria Kimani.

Thank you very much, Hon. Kimani. The next chance goes to Hon. Dekow.

Let us have Hon. Sunkuli if he is in the House.

Next is Hon. Thuku.

Let us hear Hon. Elachi.

Hon Thuku says that as much as you have five secondary schools, he has 40 secondary schools and 85 primary schools. You can imagine what he has to go through. The Member for Buuri.

Member for Sotik.

This chance now goes to the Member for Narok North. Is the Member for Igembe North in the House? Go ahead, Hon. Pareyio.

Hon. Members, you know how I preside over the proceedings of the House. Stop walking to the Chair. Hon. Mulyungi walked to the Chair to ask for a chance to speak, yet he is the next in line. He has been queuing for all this time. This is your chance...

Thank you. Member for Sirisia.

Thank you. Member for Butula. Hon. Waluke, in future you should contribute while looking up a bit so you can see the light.

Thank you. Member for Bomet County, Hon. Linet Chepkorir.

Thank you. Member for Igembe South, Hon. Paul Mwirigi.

Thank you. Let us have the Member for Suba South.

Thank you. Member for Kwale.

Hujanikwaza. Ninauliza kama

Thank you. Member for Ndaragwa.

Thank you. Member for Kaiti.

Thank you. Let us have the Member for Loima. Is that the Member for Loima? Do we have the Member for Loima in the House? He is not there. The next in line is the Member for Central Imenti.

Member of Parliament for Rangwe.

You will agree with me that Dr Gogo has spoken for almost all of us on this matter. This is one of the days when we decide this is a very good point to contribute. Let me give this chance to the Member for Turkana East.

Is it the mood of the House that the Mover be called upon to reply?

Looking at the list I have here, I only have four Members who want to contribute to this Bill. I will use the same Standing Order as Hon. Naomi to give these four opportunities and then I will call upon the Mover to reply. I will request the four that...

Hon. Lekumontare, we cannot see your name. You could have come ahead of Hon. Ngikolong, but I cannot see you either on the map or board. Put your card again. Go ahead, Hon. Ngikolong.

Thank you very much. Hon. Jackson Lekumontare.

Thank you. Hon. Eng. Nebart Muriuki. If we could avoid repetition, we would really move very well.

Thank you. Next is the Member for Moyale.

Hon. Umulkher Harun.

Hon. Timothy Toroitich.

Finally, before the Mover replies, this chance goes to the Member for Seme, Hon. Nyikal.

Thank you. Leader of the Majority Party, there is a ranking Member in the House. I do not know if you have heard his voice in a long time. I want to allow him to do two minutes, and then you will speak. Hon. Moroto.

Leader of the Majority Party, this is now your chance to reply.

Thank you very much. Members, as the Leader of the Majority Party has said, we will defer the putting of the Question on that matter to the next Sitting. Next Order. (Putting of the Question deferred) ADOPTION OF REPORT ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR CONSTITUENCIES IN KAKAMEGA COUNTY Committee on its...

What is out of order, Hon. Baya? The Leader of the Majority Party, do you have something to say? Give him the microphone.

Very well. Hon. Members, if that is the case, there being no other business to transact, I take this opportunity to wish our candidates, who are sitting for their examinations next week the very best. I hope that they had time to revise well. (A Member spoke off the record)...