BOWEN DAVID KANGOGO

Hon. Speaker, the issue of stalled affordable housing projects in our constituencies now looks like a concern to many Members. I even thought it was only in Marakwet East, where the contractor came and disappeared. It is almost one year since the contractor was handed over the site. Up to...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 41 of the Bill be amended —

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation went round the country visiting counties that engage in fishing, from Nyanza to Western. I was in Lamu and Kwale. We met Hon. Owen Baya and Hon. Ruweida in their Constituencies. I was there and the...

Marakwet East. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : In Marakwet East, the people use wood fuel for cooking, am I right? Yes. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : You can say that we are going to ban wood fuel for cooking but we will have an investor come...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Chairman.

I want to be on record, Hon. Temporary Chairman, that indeed we made an amendment here which was moved by Hon. Millie. We reduced the percentage of the Fund for monitoring, control and surveillance, and then we gave 10 per cent to artisanal fishermen. We passed this amendment. I would...

The World Trade Organisation If we pass this Bill even at this stage, we would already have a progressive law that was never there before. I agree with you on that. Some of the issues, Hon. Nyikal has just said, will be addressed through regulations. The Bill will not be...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I cannot give an undertaking on recommittal because I will have to consult all Members on this Bill. However, I am open to recommittal after consultation with all the stakeholders including the Ministry and the Council of Governors. However, I want to assure the House that we...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, this new Bill before us, is a result of the nullification of the entire Fisheries Management and Development Act, 2016 by the Malindi High Court. For the last two years, this Bill has been under consideration. At one point, it was intended to originate from the Senate,...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Fisheries Management and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 29 of 2023) up to Clause 41 and its approval thereof with amendments and seek leave to sit again. Thank you. (Question proposed) (Question put and...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the said report… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : ‘In the said report’. …in the said report and also request Hon. Rindikiri to second. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim): ‘To second the...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Kangongo Bowen. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order No. 97, on time limitation of debate. The Leader of the Majority Party and the Chair have spoken and provided us with insights into what the Bill is about. I suggest...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 4 of the Bill appearing second in time be amended—

Hon. Temporary Chairman, many proposed amendments by Hon. Millie have been incorporated. For instance, her amendment to Clause 4. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Hon. Millie, we drop your proposed amendment to the Clause in consequence thereof. (Proposed amendment by Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona dropped) (Question of the renumbering...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, the Fisheries Advisory Council was there in the previous government. At that time, there was a State Department for Blue Economy and Fisheries. It was just a department in the Office of the President called Advisory Council which was advising the President on issues of fisheries. But...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 8 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Functions of the Service. Cap. 4D Cap. 242 Cap. 254

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I also wish to point out that Hon. Millie’s proposal is already captured under Clause 8 (c) of the Committee's amendments. Her amendment is in line with Clause 8 (c) . The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Are you referring to her amendment to paragraph (a)...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 9 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 10 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Membership of the Board.

Hon. Temporary Chairman, that interest is taken care of separately by National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) . For example, the fishermen doing cage fishing in the lake must first get NEMA licenses. Though there is no harm in including that, it is already taken care of separately by NEMA. The...

Hon. Chairman, I hear the concerns by Hon. Millie and Hon. Caroli Omondi. However, I refer them to part (d) of this Bill which is the Inter-agency Monitoring, Control and Surveillance (MCS) Unit. That is page 993 of this. You can see the representation there. Allow me to read that...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 11 of the Bill be amended by deleting subclause (2) and substituting therefor the following new subclause—

We are just aligning it with the provisions of drafting style and the format of the House. How we normally…

I beg to move: THAT, Clause 12 of the Bill be amended— I beg to move: THAT, Clause 13 of the Bill be amended— Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 14 of the Bill be amended by deleting subclause (2) and substituting therefor the following new subclause—...

I plead with Hon. Millie Odhiambo to drop the amendment because it amounts to over-legislation. Our Constitution already provides that we must consult the SRC on matters to do with salaries. Her request is already provided for. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Hon. Millie, it makes good sense.

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 17 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Authorized officers. Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 18. The position of honorary fisheries officers is unnecessary and...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am saying a clean-up because it uses the initials MCS. We are just saying a clean-up because we are providing to make it in full—Monitoring, Control and Surveillance Unit. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : That being so and with that clarification, I now put...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 24 of the Bill be amended in subclause (2) by deleting the expression ‘2015.’ The amendment seeks to align the title of the Public Audit Act with the newly issued Cap. 412B. (Question of the amendment proposed) (Question, that the words...

Give me a minute, Hon. Temporary Chairman. (Hon. Kangogo Bowen consulted with the Clerks-at-the-Table) The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Yes, the Chairperson is permitted to consult. Accountability and principles of governance are national values, of which audit is part of. Hon. Charles Ngusya, do you want to speak...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I have consulted. The audit period should be three months instead of four. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Do you want to move a further amendment? Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 25 (1) of the Bill be further amended by deleting...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, Clause 27 establishes the Fish Levy Trust Fund (FLTF) , which we seek to restructure into the Fish Levy Development Fund. This Fund will take care of artisanal fisheries. The regulations will contain a framework on how collections will be shared between the national Government and the...

That is why I have consulted Hon. Millie that we add the people to benefit from this Fund under Clause 27. In consultation Hon. Millie, I am going to move a further amendment so that we include them in this Fund. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : The Hon...

I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 27 and substituting therefor the following new clause: Fish Levy Development Fund.

Hon. Temporary Chairman, let me be on record. My committee member, Hon. Kassim Tandaza, is on record saying this artisanal fishing must be defined. I just want to inform him that, in the Preliminary Part I, artisanal fishing and artisanal fishing vessels are clearly defined there. The 10 per cent...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 29 of the Bill be amended —

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 30 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 33 of the Bill be amended—

I wish to inform Hon. Kassim Tandaaza that counties which were traditionally not considered fishing counties, like Kirinyaga, Nyeri, Kiambu, and even our pastoralist areas, now have aquaculture as the main activity. So, we are saying that counties need to develop their own development plans that align with the national...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 35 of the Bill be amended by deleting subclause (1) and substituting therefor the following new subclause—

I had said that where there is a conflict in respect of these resources, the national Government should prevail. Additionally, under Article 191 (3) (b) , (c) and (6) , the national Government laws should prevail in this instance. That is the import of the amendment. (Question of the amendment...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 36 of the Bill be amended—

Before I give… I have seen Hon... The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Order! You have no power to give anybody the microphone. Hon. Kangogo Bowen (Marakwet East, UDA) : This is to inform Hon. Millie Odhiambo that, instead of the word “foreigner” here, we can use “foreign nationals.”...

Further to Hon. Tandaza’s point of order, we have already indicated in Clause 33 that each county shall develop their own fisheries management measures, including conservation. That is why Hon. Caroli is asking about the roles of county governments. When we say they will develop their own fisheries management plans,...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Chairperson.

Hon. Temporary Chairperson, there are foreigners in our country who are legally licensed to fish. As part of their corporate social responsibility, they support BMUs. Before this Bill, BMUs did not exist. They support nearby BMUs, which sometimes co-opt them as members when they hold their meetings, since they help...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 36 of the Bill be further amended— Yes. (Question of the further amendment proposed) (Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to) (Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted,...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 38 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 39 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by—

Hon. Temporary Chairman, let me make a clarification and then we make progress. Clause 39 (1) , as contained in the Bill, reads as follows: The Director-General may, in accordance with the best scientific advice, and such other relevant information as may be available, with the approval of the Cabinet...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the House do report its considerations of the Fisheries Management and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 29 of 2023) up to Clause 39 and its approval thereof with amendments and seek leave to sit again. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request the Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Owen Baya, to second.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to support the Mediated Version of the Division of Revenue Bill. This is an annual constitutional Bill under Article 218 of our Constitution. This House sits annually to review what is sent to the counties and what remains with the...

Hon. Speaker, the question by Hon. Wario touches on the Ministry of Environment, Climate Change and Forestry; Ministry of Water, Sanitation and Irrigation and other ministries. It is a serious issue. Some years back, Lake Baringo which is a freshwater lake and Lake Bogoria were 37 kilometres apart. They are...

I join my colleagues in condoling with the families of the 16 girls who lost their lives. We, as a Parliament and a country, need to reflect and re-examine boarding schools. There are very few, if any, boarding schools in developed countries. We need to relook at boarding schools. The...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to also congratulate Sebastian Sawe for breaking the world record in the marathon. I am happy that as a country we are celebrating a Kenyan for breaking a world record. Kenya is a country of many talents; it is only...

Hon. Speaker, the Bill has been debated extensively in the last few weeks. (Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record) Go ahead. You do not have to be distracted. You are addressing the Hon. Speaker. You are not addressing Hon. (Dr) Oundo. Hon. Speaker, we had debated this Bill...

You directed the Petition to the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. Is that not your committee? No; it is Kawaya's.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to second this Bill. Before I proceed, I would like to congratulate His Excellency the President for creating the Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs. For the first time, the blue economy in this country has a Ministry led by Hon. Ali Hassan...

Yes. That is it, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The fishermen said that they were not involved. The other time, the public did not even know that there was public participation. The issue which came out strongly was about fishing nets. The fishermen said that the specifications of the fishing nets that...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate all my colleagues. I appreciate the Leader of the Majority Party who moved the Bill, Members of the Committee who are here like Hon. Rozaah Buyu, Hon. Muthoni and all Members who contributed to the Bill. Let me assure the House that if...