Anthony Kimani Ichung'wah

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.3) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 44 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Junet Mohamed, the Leader of the Minority Party, to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.4) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 45 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. Major Bashir to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 48 of 2024) , be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. Beatrice Elachi, Member for Dagoretti North, to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I was hoping it was on my Statement. I have viewed the clip. I do not know whether the gentleman on the clip is an actual religious leader or just draped in Islamic religious clothing, but what he was saying is...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, thank you for that reminder. We are prioritising this business, and Hon. Waluke and Member for Kanduyi, there is a Sitting tomorrow at 9.30 a.m. and we expect you to be there to represent the people of Bungoma. As Hon. Speaker has indicated,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Let me first thank Hon. Junet for raising this issue. At times, we are afraid to speak for ourselves because we will be seen to be fighting the church or religious leaders. Let me thank Hon. Junet because he has...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, it is true what the Majority Whip has said. I accompanied the President to the Catholic Church in Soweto, Embakasi East. When we sat to have a cup of tea with the leadership of that church, they are the ones who sought...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Start-up Bill. Let me begin by thanking Hon. Mayaka and another Senator, who are the co-sponsors of this Bill that came from the Senate. Hon. Irene, this is the way to go because you are...

Senator Crystal Asige. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Senator Crystal Asige. I do not know her but, when I read the Bill, I got her name. I have never put a face on her. (Hon. Catherine Omanyo spoke off the record) Hon. Catherine Omanyo has told me she is physically...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I have been informed that she comes from Mombasa County. The people of Mombasa County should watch and see what Senator Asige is doing not only for them, but also for millions of young men and women in this country. I conclude by saying that,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon Temporary Chairlady. I am sorry, I am used to you chairing the Committee of the whole House. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I rise to support the nomination of Hon. Rehema Jaldesa as the Chairperson of NGEC....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise on a point of order because of this issue. I am from Kiambu County, and I am a very good supporter of women leaders. I would not condone the kind of talk that I heard from that particular MCA, who...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg your indulgence to drop this Special Motion under Order No.10 on Consideration of Nominees for Appointment to the Salaries and Renumeration Commission for reasons I had discussed with you. I will stand it down to some time until next week when...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second this Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 44 of 2024) . As the title stipulates, the Bill principally amends the Public Finance Management Act to actualise the provisions of Article 187...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I will reply in one minute.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to reply. Picking up from what Hon. Melly was saying, it is indeed true that there were issues with the transfer of assets and liabilities even at the time of the local government authorities. This Bill indeed addresses...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No. 4) Bill (National Assembly Bill no. 45 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. This is a very short Bill amending the Public Finance Management Act around the issues of...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to reply. Allow me to appreciate all the contributions made. To an extent, I agree with Hon. Oundo on the question of pending bills. It is important that we settle all our pending bills. Hon. Oundo knows that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to second this Bill. Since the Chairman of the Committee has articulated its provisions and the real intent, allow me to thank the Committee for having adopted this Bill as a Committee Bill. It indeed addresses very critical...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Unclaimed Financial Assets (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.15 of

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I cannot donate time to somebody who walks into the House at 8.30 p.m. and he has not been there from 2.30

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 11 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed) The...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Kenya Revenue Authority (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 35 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Kimani Kuria to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Oundo to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that this House do agree with the Report of the Committee of the whole House on its consideration of the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 11 of 2024) . I also request Hon....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, with your indulgence, I know this should have come at the beginning of the debate on this Bill. Kindly allow us to contribute for at least three to five minutes maximum to allow Hon. Oundo time to reply, considering the time factor....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. In just a minute as I had requested in the interest of time, I support this Bill. I thank Hon. Oundo because the Land Control Boards are centres of corruption in all our sub-counties and county headquarters. The Deputy County...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, what was there was laid in the morning. We have nothing to lay.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, Hon. Speaker. The Clerk’s Office had duplicated what was laid in the morning, but there is one for the afternoon sitting.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Orders 30 (3) (a) , this House orders that should the time appointed for adjournment of the House be reached before conclusion of business listed as Order No.13,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, he is always here, but the Vice- Chairperson of that Committee is never here. If you count the Members of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, a handful are here. I am serving them notice. I know the whips are here and they...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me begin by thanking all the Members who have contributed to this debate on the State of the Nation Address by His Excellency the President since yesterday morning when it began, and also even those who were very resilient up...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, Ksh280. Actually, there is a brand that was retailing at Ksh287. Today the same brands are at an average of Ksh120 and Ksh110. I have even seen some brands going for as low as Ksh90. If indeed the demonstrations that Hon. Robert Mbui, my...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Article 127 (2) (c) (i) of the Constitution, this House approves the appointment of Senator Wahome Wamatinga to the Parliamentary Service Commission to fill the vacancy occasioned by the resignation...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, could the Members leaving led by the Member for Aldai, the Hon. Melly and Hon. Caroli Omondi kindly take their seats for two minutes for the obvious reasons? Hon. Speaker, I beg to reply. This Bill is a four clause Bill. The Mover...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Allow me to, first, thank our Chair of the Budget and Appropriations Committee who also co-chaired the Mediation Committee between us and the other House. I thank all Members of this House and the Senators who engaged in this very...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Coffee Bill (Senate Bill No.10 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Oundo to second the Motion.

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is the point of order, Leader of the Majority Party? Hon. Temporary Speaker, I do not have a point of order, but a point of information. For the benefit of the Members who have not contributed to the State of the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to welcome Mzee Wamboka Wanami, the father of the Member for Bumula. I thank him for taking his time to come and see what his son is doing. It is, indeed, a great honour for a father, who is...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights in the Senate, so that Senators on the Mediation 25th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 9

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I was also very distracted because when they converse in the Kamba language, I only hear nesa nesa. Thank you for protecting me. (Laughter) 25th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)did not know that there was...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, Hon. Speaker.

Conclude that statement. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) In conclusion, this does not mean that without Adani, we do not get the massive investment we need at JKIA or the energy and road sectors. As the President said, our nation's economy is resilient. I look forward to the President and...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you. Widen, deepen and tighten our regional integration. Regional trade will not be a reality if we do not adopt PPPs as the new way of capitalising or financing capital-intensive projects. This is to avoid overtaxing Kenyans. The alternative is to tax them but...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will go straight to my question on university education. The Cabinet Secretary is aware that besides the issues that were being alluded to by Hon. Kaguchia regarding the University of Nairobi - and I repeat, 'The University of Nairobi'…

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, on a light note, Hon. Robert Mbui attended one of the other universities named after individuals. As I was saying, the Cabinet Secretary is also aware that Moi University has been in a crisis for some time. We would like to hear what...

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Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Orders 30 (b) and (c) (Hours of Meeting) , this House resolves to hold Sittings on the following days for purposes of debate on the President’s Address and...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, this was a general statement, but I am hearing a lot of reference to abductions. Even the Member on the Floor, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy and Irrigation, is speaking about abductions. However, the example he has given,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Article 209 (5) . Sorry, I am confusing Articles 209 (5) with 205 (9) . As I was saying, this is by defining how the national Government, through the National Treasury and Economic Planning, may exercise its policy oversight role. The Bill further establishes the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the following Bills from fourteen (14) days to twelve

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you for that protection, Hon. Deputy Speaker. In view of our scheduled Calendar, we are to proceed on the long recess on 5th December and we want to avoid a situation where we have to recall Members for a special sitting. We also want...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House resolves to exempt businesses appearing as Orders 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 in today’s Order Paper from the provisions of Standing Order 40 (3) , being a Wednesday Morning,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. First, I want Hon. Muriu to table the documents and not WhatsApp messages. I can see him google on his phone. We cannot treat this House as if we are...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) To table.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg we redact that from the Hansard. Hon. Muriu said that he has documents to Table, and clearly, he has none. I told him there is a difference between discussing matters at Kirwara Market and in this House. You have...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I want the Cabinet Secretary to tell us whether other PIPs were considered together with the one for the Adani Group. What we hear from the media is what many people quote. We want to hear from him if other PIPs were also...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by thanking the Whip of the Majority Party for moving this Bill on my behalf. I rise to second. Let me, first, take this opportunity to thank Hon. Marianne Kitany and the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) St. Francis Rang’ala High School. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Correct. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you seem to know where the school...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. To make it clear to Hon. Elachi, the definition of 'scrap metal' is already contained in the Act. What the Chairperson is trying to do is to delete the word 'used automobile.' For instance, you will discover that in almost all...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg your indulgence that we complete this because today the House sits up to 7.00 p.m. We have two hours so if we add another 15-20 minutes we will be done. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Hon. Members, that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Kangogo Bowen to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a Point of Order. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Yes, Hon. Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)Hon. Temporary Chairman, let me thank the Chairperson and support that particular amendment because he did not mention that this will not...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, this amendment intends to make it punitive to carry stolen materials, especially those related to the energy sector. I wanted to propose, maybe as a middle ground, that instead of deleting the entire amendment, the Chairman should consider adding a proviso that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Statute Law, Miscellaneous Amendment Bill (National Assembly Bill No.67 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed) (The House resumed)...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request the Hon. Karemba Muchangi, the Member for Runyenjes, to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I know this Bill has taken quite some time because of the enormous work involved with the various Committees. Allow me to take this 12th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)opportunity to thank the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me first take this opportunity to thank Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo for this Adjournment Motion because it gives us the opportunity to address a very topical issue in our country. Allow me to start with a bit of statistics...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements for the year ended 30th June 2024 and the certificates therein in respect of:

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for your indulgence. First, allow me to convey my heartfelt condolences to the family, friends and relatives of the late Hon. Murunga, with whom I was fortunate to serve in this House during the 11th Parliament. Indeed, he was a...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I just need to set the record straight. As a leader, I would not wish to embarrass any Member. What I did yesterday...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. It is, indeed, true, that the Cabinet Secretary wrote to us, and I was copied in that letter. We have also since written to him requesting him to appear before the House next week, Wednesday, 13th November 2024, together with...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Rael Kasiwai, who sits somewhere there, is not in the House. The Member for Kajiado South, Hon. Samuel Parashina, as always, is never in the House. The Member for Matuga Constituency, Hon. Kassim Tandaza, who is also the Vice-Chair of the NG-CDF Committee, is...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) The Member for Mwingi West Constituency, Hon. Charles Ngusya (CNN) , is always in the House, but he is not in. The Member for Ikolomani Constituency, Hon. Shinali, is usually on and off in the House, and he is not here. What point am I...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me first commend the Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Junet Mohamed, for raising this issue on the matter of the judgment. I also take this opportunity to commend the Supreme Court. The architecture of our Constitution, and we...