Pukose Robert

(Technical hitch)Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. My card is not working. I do not know what the problem is. I need the ICT people to look at it.Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Health on: International Vaccine...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Departmental Committee on Health on its consideration of the Agreement on the Establishment of the IVI, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 5th December 2023; and pursuant...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I, the undersigned, on behalf the residents of Chepchoina (Phase One (I) , Two (II) and Three (III) ) settlement schemes in Trans Nzoia County, draw the attention of the House to the following: THAT, there are over three thousand (3,000) settlers residing in Chepchoina...

The Leader of the Majority Party is here. Yes. Let us proceed. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, you have a Response to a Question by Hon. David Kiplagat who is not listening. (Hon. David Kiplagat consulted with Hon. Nelson Koech) Hon. David Kiplagat, you had...

Okay. We are doing it to catch the eye of the Hon. Temporary Speaker. (Laughter)

It is on Lang’ata Road. Is it the piece of land right next to Wilson Airport? Yes. Correct. Proceed. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. First, I want to thank the Member for Soy for raising this very serious issue. Secondly, I want to thank the Committee on Finance and National...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand to support the Petition you presented on robotics and artificial intelligence issues. In medicine, we use robotics mainly in operations. Many of the uses of robotics are not well-regulated. It will be important that we have a law because this is a new technology...

Hon. Speaker, I sympathise with the Member for Turbo for the incident that occurred in Kamagut. I am also a farmer. The issue of “murokoto” is very serious during the time of harvesting our maize, and the people are on standby. As much as we want to be sympathetic, we...

What is the consequence of this amendment? The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : If the amendment by Hon. Chepkonga passes or succeeds, there will be nothing upon which subsequent amendments will rest. So, the subsequent amendments will also die. That is why I am giving you not more than...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : What is out of order, Hon Pukose? Hon. Temporary Chairman, with all due respect, I expected Hon. Chepkonga would first move his amendment and then give explanations. He is explaining before he has moved. So,...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I stand to support the amendment because when a statutory instrument is annulled by this House, we do not communicate to the public. When a Ministry gazettes certain regulations, they are very fast in implementing them. Such action might have adverse consequences on the public...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is out of order, Hon. (Dr) Pukose? Hon. Temporary Speaker, I know this is a very important Motion on approval of ambassadors so they can start working. I can see everybody is supporting it. Will I be in order to ask...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to ask Question 266/2023 to the Cabinet Secretary. Could the Cabinet Secretary:

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I thank the Cabinet Secretary for the response. Unfortunately, he has not fully answered the Question because when this incident happened on 29th April 2023, the DPP ordered officers to take a statement from the shop owner on 13th September 2023. You can see how many months...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. We have a point of order from Hon. Pukose. The Member for Baringo South has really interfered with my Question. In the second part, I asked the Cabinet secretary to explain why the OCS of Kathwana Police Station sent officers to make...

They should go to the Deputy County Commissioner, Endebess. You can also help them do that as a Member of Parliament. I have no problem with that one, but the other part now... The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki) : I partially answered the...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker for allowing me to contribute to this very important Motion. At the outset, I want to thank the Committee that is headed by Hon. Wanjiku Muhia for having visited the One-Stop-Border- Post in the Northern Corridor. I am informed that she went to Busia but...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have something on the Petition by Charles Ochola on a Bill to regulate the practice of geophysics. Considering the Public Petitions Committee has a lot at hand, the best thing would be for Mr. Ochola to approach any of the Members of Parliament representing him...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE PUBLIC SERVICE (VALUES AND PRINCIPLES) (AMENDMENT) BILL

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I stand to second the Public Service (Values and Principles) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.46 of 2022) . I want to thank Members for supporting this Bill, which has come to this stage, and wish them an enjoyable short recess. I also wish candidates of...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I want to support the petitioners because this is a very important Petition. I urge the Committee when looking into it, they move with speed and liaise with the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs so that we can amend Section 7 (3) of...

On a point of order. What is out of order Hon. Dr Pukose? You know Hon. Temporary Speaker, I had indicated a point of order when Hon. Ochieng’ was speaking. Hon. Ochieng’ has intentions of… I saw an intervention but I thought your intention was to speak or make comments...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. (Dr) Pukose, what is out of order?There is a point of order, Hon. Kaluma. Although Hon. Kaluma has sat down, he has displayed a lot of negative energy and I think that is not healthy for him because when you express...

You cannot respond. You must wait until when he is in.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to thank the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education and Members who have given their input. As our students prepare to do examinations, especially those from Endebess Constituency, I wish them success in their KPSEA, KCPE and KCSE examinations. One of the...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Yes, Hon. Pukose. Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for your ruling and guidance. This Bill initially was my Bill but it got interest from both the Ministry and the Government and, therefore, this Bill was converted into a Committee Bill. This allowed the Government...

Well guided. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah consulted with Dr Robert Pukose)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. You know, the NG-CDF has done a lot in this country. I want to congratulate the Chair of the SelectCommittee on the National Government Constituencies Development Fund, Hon. Musa Sirma

Thank you for allowing me to contribute. From the outset, I support the amendments done by the Committee. I thank the Committee of the whole House for accepting those amendments. Just as the Member for Kitui Central has put it, insurance companies are very aggressive. You will find them approaching...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Having listened to Hon. Kaluma, I think you have already given a direction. This is a very important Bill. This is a Bill I introduced in the 11th Parliament, and we have gone through it. It is affecting a Department within the Ministry of Health, and...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be amended by deleting sub-clause (1) and substituting therefore the following new sub-clause (1) — “ (l) This Act applies to the regulation of—

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. In (a) , I am talking about medicines, medical products and technologies. What Hon. Kaluma needs to know is that scheduled substances are medicines. When we say “medicines,” they are in scheduled substances.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, we are in Clause 3. This Clause does not talk about definitions. We have amended, and we are indicating comprehensively the cover of all aspects in the regulation of health products and technologies.” All those are health products and technologies and so, it is not definition. The...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 5 of the Bill be amended by deleting the words, ‘‘but the Authority may establish branches anywhere in Kenya’’ and substituting therefor the words ‘‘or in such other place as the board of the Authority may, by resolution, determine’’. This is...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to read to Hon. Kaluma and other Members what the Bill states - that the headquarters of the authority shall be in Nairobi. We have gone further to say that the branches shall be in such other place as the board of the Authority may,...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I think the best thing is to drop the amendment. (Applause) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 6 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this amendment has been subjected to public participation. The qualification that one must hold a degree in pharmacy from a university recognised in Kenya must be a basic requirement. This is also a WHO requirement for this national medical regulatory authority to qualify for maturity Level 3....

THAT, Clause 7 of the Bill be amended in paragraph (f) by deleting the words “Act. regulation under this” and substituting therefor the words “regulation under this Act”. This is to correct a typographical error. What we are doing in Paragraph 7 of the Bill is to amend (f) by...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, when I listened to the Speaker’s ruling, he said that there are Members of Parliament who presented their proposed amendments late and he approved them. The proposed amendments are with the office of the Speaker. Also, the Speaker said that if a Member wants to make a...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 8 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Otiende’s amendment is that there is no Council of County Governors. It is supposed to be the Council of Governors to represent the interests of counties. It is just a typo error which can be corrected through a further amendment because we cannot say a Council of County Governors....

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 9. This provision contradicts the legal framework for appointment of the chairperson, board members and chief executive officers of State corporations or semi-autonomous Government agencies. The chairperson, board members and director-general of the authority are...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 10 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (1) by deleting the words ―section 12 “appearing in paragraph (c) and substituting therefor the words ―section Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 12 of the Bill be amended by—

They are supporting. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : I will put the Question. Hon. Pukose please clarify on record. I want them to specify on which clause. Hon. Temporary Chairlady, when we talk about empathy, sympathy and compassion, it is in line with terminally ill patients with cancer....

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I agree with the amendment by Hon. Nyikal. It is a good amendment. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Therefore, Members, I will put the Question. (Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to) (Clause 12 as amended agreed...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 21 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, Clause 13 of the Bill talks about the collaboration of the bodies or organisations within or outside Kenya, as it may be considered necessary. We are not talking of any sub-committee that has been established in Clause 13 of the Bill. I have not seen any sub-committee...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, part IV of the Bill be amended by deleting the title and substituting therefore the following new title- PART III—HEALTH PRODUCTS AND TECHNOLOGIES be inserted, put and agreed to) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 22 of the Bill...

You know Hon. Kaluma would like to practise alternative medicine. There was a Bill in the 11th Parliament on Traditional Medicine that went to the Senate and did not come back from there. It died there. I hope Hon. Kaluma can take up that Bill and reintroduce it in the...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Medicine is made using either synthetics or herbs from trees and plants. When talking about traditional medicine, this field is not regulated. Those practising traditional medicine come in various forms: herbal doctors, wizards, bone-setters or bone technologists and neurosurgeons in Elgeyo-Marakwet who can remove depressed...

I beg to move: THAT, Clause 23 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (1) by—

The Chairperson of the Special Funds Account Committee is the Member for Migori County, Hon. Fatuma.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I thank the Members who contributed to this Bill and for the sentiments that were put forward based on the public participation Report in amending certain sections. Members talked about the difference between pharmacists and pharmaceutical technologists. There was also an issue on drugs. They suggested...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The issues which have been raised by Hon. Akujah are very weighty as far as aircraft safety is concerned. Although I have been using Skyward Express PLC from Wilson to Kakamega and Kitale, it has not had these challenges. Unfortunately, when you hear that the...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is out of order, Hon. (Dr) Pukose, Member for Endebess Constituency? With all due respect to Hon. Dekow, Member for Garissa Township Constituency, I think the Petition that the Member has raised is to be looked at by the Committee. It...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to move that the Kenya Drugs Authority Bill (Bill No.54 of 20212) be read a Second Time. This Bill seeks to consolidate the regulation of health products and technologies. That is in keeping with the international best practice and guidance from the World...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, this Bill establishes the Kenya Drugs Authority that is responsible for the regulation, investigation, inspection and approval of health products and technologies, and related matters. Having gone through this Bill, the Committee made the following observations. The Bill expands the current Pharmacy and Poisons Board and re-engineers...

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