Veronica Waheti Nduati

Hon. Senator, you know the parliamentary language to use when you are referring to your colleagues. Can you withdraw the reference or use of the term “boys” to describe a Senator?

What is your point of order, Sen. Methu? Proceed.

Sen. Osotsi, can you elaborate but without the reference of the word “boys” because that name has been withdrawn?

What is your point of order, Sen. Boni?

Sen. Boni, we have restrained the use of unparliamentary language. The term “boys” was withdrawn. Do not use it again.

(Applause)

Thank you, Sen. Otsotsi. Sen. Edwin Sifuna Watenya, Deputy Minority Whip

Sen. Sifuna, would you wish to be informed by Sen. Eddie?

Sen. Eddy, do not mess up the flow of thought from the hon Senator's submission.

I thank you. (Applause) Thank you honourable Senator. You are fiery this afternoon as the SG of the ODM.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I think that the issue that the Senator of Busia is raising is a pertinent issue and he has raised a dichotomous issue. One is the issue of the campaign, and the other is the issue of those who went to Addis Ababa. It would...

Sen. Omtatah, the honourable Senator actually offered before being prompted that he could table the evidence. So, it should not be an area of contention. He can bring that evidence and table.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Having said that, money issues aside, a lot has been said about foreign policy. Where I stand, foreign policy basically means how attractive you are to others or how threatening you are to others. If you have no nuclear weapons, you cannot be threatening in...

Which you would conclude after he tables and you find it sugar-coated. That is the only time you have rendered a fair judgement on the issue. Senator Eddie, you will be allowed to table that evidence that you paid your own ticket.

Sen. Sen. Osotsi do you have an intervention? Have you pressed for intervention?

Madam Temporary Speaker, these are not social media facts; it is an internet resource. It is Wikipedia; an internet resource. It is an authority and I have referred to it. So the two opponent factions consist of the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) under Abdel Fattah al-Burhan and the Paramilitary Rapid...

Hon. Senator, are you presenting social media facts or what are you presenting?

What is your point of order, Sen. Eddie?

Sen. Boni, give Sen. Eddy time to raise his point of order.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I have left the Wikipedia alone. I am here at https://www.cfr.org//global-conflict-tracker//conflict-power-struggle- Sudan. The heading of the document is civil war in Sudan by the Centre for Preventive Action. A highly recognized body.

Madam Temporary Speaker, we have got computerized systems here and if people are not able to use them, I cannot be responsible for the ignorance of Members. (Laughter) Sen. Okiya, I am guiding you. I want you to table that evidence in the normal procedural manner, which evidence is tabled...

Sen. Okiya, I am guiding you. I want you to table that evidence in the normal procedural manner, which evidence is tabled in this House or statement of facts are verified in this House. If you are able to table it within the next short while, it is okay. Table...

Madam Temporary Speaker, indeed, this is a very important issue. We should not muzzle the Senator of Busia without paying attention to what he is saying. Wikipedia, is an encyclopedia, which is referred to in Hawaian Language as quick and fast speed. Therefore, to challenge its authenticity is to pretend...

Would you like to be informed by Sen. Boni?

Sen. Boni, beyond the point of information on the Encyclopedia, I think the question was whether Janjaweed is located in Kenya. I think that is what Sen. Eddy was asking.

Would you like to be informed by the Senator from Nandi?

Okay. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to make it clear that the Senator for Busia County intimated that Janjaweed is based in Kenya, for which he went ahead to seek the source of Wikipedia to prove that.This is a very important issue of national security interest in our country and we...

Sen. Eddie, while you were in order to raise that point of order, your first point was overtaken because Sen. Boni was not on his feet when you raised that issue. Ideally, you should raise it when he is still on the Floor. So, that is overtaken, but you have...

Give him back his minutes that have been consumed by the point of order.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, you still have a responsibility to indicate your source, whether Janjaweed is in Kenya or not in Kenya. You have to answer that question. Sen. Okiya Omtatah, do not avoid by the use of Information Technology (IT) and paper and manual paper. Present that, please.

But the clerk is here. Can you table it now, Sen. Okiya Omtatah? I have directed you.

Write it down for them. I have given you the guide.

Who are you informing? You cannot inform the Chair. Hon. Senators, before I rule on the point of order by Sen. Eddie, I will allow Sen. Kinyua an opportunity to make his point of clarification.

Sen. Kinyua, is not in order for Senators to conduct business in an unusual and difficult manner for the Secretariat or Clerks. I actually directed and ruled that he proceeds to give the details of the website to the Clerk’s Desk. That is his responsibility under Standing Order No.105. He...

evidence is allowed in law. Let us not allow Standing Order No.105 to be misused to curtail debate in this House.For that matter, Madam Temporary Speaker, I am demanding communication on the matter of Moi University, which I substantiated. However, the Chair has not communicated to this House on the...

Madam Temporary Speaker, with tremendous respect to you as the Chair, in my opinion, the HANSARD is here. It will be a misrepresentation of facts for you to say that you directed Sen. Omtatah to approach the Clerks so that he presents the evidence he was referring to. When Sen....

Sen. Osotsi, the substantiation on Moi University is an issue that can be handled by the Chair. It will be communicated. I ask the Clerk to ensure that an opportunity is offered for that evidence to be reviewed and a ruling to be made. Sen. Okiya was not denied an...

Sen. Omogeni, we have heard you. You can now resume your seat because your point is made. Sen. Omtatah was given a chance to present the document. If you read that Standing Order which you have quoted, it says the Senator is entitled to share. That sharing is not the...

Sen. Omogeni, I believe that as you raise that issue---

Proceed.

What is your point of order, Sen. Osotsi?

Sen. Osotsi, who was my former Chairperson at the County Public Investments Committee (CPIC) , is also holding a very big seat in ODM. He is questioning that Rt. Hon. Odinga is not holding any office in Government, yet his party has fronted some Cabinet Secretaries who are holding big...

Sen. Thang’wa, when you make a serious allegation, it is your responsibility under Standing Order 105 to substantiate.

It is important you use the Parliamentary language. When you say bread-based--- An Hon. Senator: Time to eat.

Sen. Osotsi, you have another point of order?

Sen. Thang’wa, you either substantiate or withdraw that.

Madam Temporary Speaker, substantiation is not done by the way of a request for statement. It is done by way of evidence before the House. He can have a request for statement seeking for information, but what we want is substantial evidence to be tabled in this House on how...

Sen. Osotsi, you are the one who raised the need for him to substantiate. So, let him finish to know if you are satisfied with the answer or not.

Sen. Karungo.

Sen. Thang’wa, you still have not substantiated that issue. Are you able to present the substantiation documents now or do you need to bring them by tomorrow?

By tomorrow when the House sits, bring the evidence to substantiate the looting.

Can there be a point of order on my ruling? Proceed, Sen. Methu.

air ticket to Addis Ababa. You were very lenient to him when he was told to substantiate. He said he can do so tomorrow or whatever time.You and I know that Members of Parliament have been accused of receiving bribes of Ksh10,000 in toilets. Nobody would cough hundreds of thousands...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 105. I have my ticket and hotel booking as everyone does. So, you are the one who should actually substantiate. Sen. Eddie has collected all evidence. That is what he has gone to do. I feel pained to be told that I...

Sen. Hamida, what is your point of order?

Sen. Hamida, that is noted. Sen. Eddie was directed by the Speaker to present evidence of those tickets, which I believe he will present by tomorrow. Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa.

Let me first say the reason these amendments are so crucial and timely is because a time has come for counties to be intentional in how they promote afforestation and reforestation. I say this because we have seen the number of activities that the counties are engaging in, and a...

Sen. Kisang’.

Would you like to be informed?

Sen. Abass.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Wakili Hilary Sigei. You have the Floor.

Sen. Cherarkey, allow the Senator to be heard in silence.

Thank you. Sen. Eric Omogeni.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Joyce Korir, proceed.

When we resume, Sen. Onyonka will have 15 minutes to continue with the debate. ADJOURNMENT

Thank you, hon. Senator. Next Order. I call upon the Chair, Standing Committee on Energy, Sen. Wamatinga, to present a Notice of Motion of the Committee. NOTICES OF MOTIONS INQUIRY INTO THE LPG EXPLOSION IN MRADI, NAIROBI CITY COUNTY

Next is the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. Sen. Murgor or any Member of that Committee. INQUIRY INTO THE WELFARE OF WORKERS IN EPZS IN MOMBASA AND KILIFI COUNTIES

Next is the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations. Sen. Chute. PERSONAL SECURITY CONCERNS BY HON. PHILOMENA KAPKORY – DEPUTY GOVERNOR TRANS NZOIA COUNTY

There is a second Notice of Motion from the same Committee. INQUIRY INTO THE STATE OF MARKETS IN VIHIGA AND BUNGOMA COUNTIES

Next is the Chairperson, Standing Committee on National Cohesion, Equal Opportunities and Regional Integration. Sen. Chute to give notice. INQUIRY ON THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSIVITY IN THE STAFF COMPOSITION OF STATE AGENCIES IN KENYA

Next is the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Energy, Sen. Wahome Wamatinga. CHALLENGE OF POWER PURCHASE AGREEMMENT RENEWALS AND ELECTRICITY SUPPLY IN KENYA

Order, Sen. Omogeni. Sen. Veronica Maina.

You have no powers to ask him that. (Loud consultations)

(Loud consultation)

I am quite concerned that the National Assembly has become a graveyard for legislation which is passed here in the Senate, and they go there and they find a slaughter house and die there. I do not know whether fighting them will be the solution. However, I would have suggested...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to conclude by saying that I support this Motion. I want to urge the people who have been appointed to the SBC to work well and create an amicable relationship with the other House so that we can find an amicable way of working. They...

Thank you for withdrawing the statement; it is the correct thing to do.

Sen. Kisang, proceed. Secretariat, put his microphone on. Sen. Kisang, kindly move to the dispatch.

You must also be fair---it is procedure. I am not against you--- Sen. Cherarkey, I am just informing you that when you are in the minority, that is what happens. (Laughter)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, resume your seat. Sen. Cherarkey, I am speaking now as the Chair. First, you did not have the platform because the Chair had not granted you an opportunity to speak. So, raising your voice against Sen. Onyonka will be out of order. Let us have Sen. Onyonka...

Order, Sen. Cherarkey. First Sen. Oketch Gicheru, resume your seat. Sen. Cherarkey, I am speaking now as the Chair. First, you did not have the platform because the Chair had not granted you an opportunity to speak. So, raising your voice against Sen. Onyonka will be out of order. Let...

Let Sen. Onyonka be heard in silence. I have given direction, Senator. Sen. Cherarkey, it will be taken after. I have given directions. Proceed, Sen. Onyonka.

Sen. Cherarkey, I caution you to be orderly.

Madam Temporary Speaker, as a Senator in this House, I also have a role to guide the House sometimes when there are lapses as per the Standing Orders and the Constitution. Let me begin by saying that I support the SBC membership. My simple advice to the Senate Majority Leader...

already posted. Somebody who just walked out ameshaweka kwa TikTok and other platforms.The point I am trying to make is that let us be honest with ourselves. In fact, as I speak, and the Senate Majority Leader will support me on this, UDM did a post-coalition agreement as per Political...

Thank you. Sen. Kajwang’.

regulations that touch on the agricultural sector, especially the sugar sector. We have a new Sugar Board that has been created. There are regulations that must be prioritised by the Committee on Delegated Legislation. The Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries has business with the Rice Bill that was...

we begin the Session because we would like priorities to be set. I support the names of the Senators that have been brought up because they are outstanding. We believe in them to set the priority of the Senate. I wanted to support this early enough, so that I leave...

I stood on a point of information.

Thank you. The final Senator to speak is Sen. Joe Nyutu. Oh! Sen. Abass, sorry. (Sen. Joe Nyutu stood in his place) Just hold on, Sen. Joe Nyutu Sen. Abass was here for a long time. Sen. Abass, can you make it very short? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary...

Clerk, can you confirm? Was he on a point of information? Okay, can you make it very short then? Proceed.

the letter, but not in the spirit of the Constitution, of how Parliament and National Assembly have been used interchangeably. Perhaps it was the works of an over- enthusiastic draftsman, or somebody cheekily did that to spite this House, and we cannot be the ones that agree to that kind...

I call the Senate Majority Leader to respond. Before I do that, let me give guidance on the important question that has been raised, and ridden together with this debate on the Senate Business Committee. Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. I will now proceed. Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing...

Thank you, Majority Leader, for that very passionate response and reply to the Motion that is on the Floor of this House. I want to request that the Serjeant-at-Arms ring the Division Bell for three minutes. (The Division Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. I will now...

Hon. Senators, I wish to announce the results of this Division - AYES: 29 NOES: 0 ABSTENTIONS: 0 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE THE ELECTIONS (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.29 OF 2024)

Hon. Senators, let us resume our seats so that we can resume the Session. Hon. Senators, kindly resume your seats. Sen. Kajwang’, Sen. Kamau, resume your seats. Sen. Eddy, Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Sigei, resume your seats. (Several Senators resumed their seats) (Interruption of voting on Bills) COMMUNICATION FROM THE...

Thank you, Sen. Eddy. (Question proposed) Hon. Senators, I have requests from Senators who wish to contribute to this Motion. I would propose that we agree because we have very few minutes and there are four Senators who would wish to contribute on the Motion. Can we do that in...

Thank you. Your time is up. Sen. Mwinyihaji Faki, proceed.

Give him half a minute.

Let us have Sen. Ledama then we close with Sen. Munyi Mundigi. You have one minute each.

Your time is up. Sen. Mundigi, you have the Floor. You have one minute only.

Hon. Senators, I will give the Senate Majority Leader a minute to reply to this Motion. Apologies for that. We have extended the time for the sitting today under Standing Order No.34 (2A) to allow the Senate Majority Leader to reply.

Thank you very much, Senate Majority Leader. You have also done a good job throughout the session and we appreciate your effort together with the Senate Minority Leader. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.34

Senator, before I give you a chance to respond to that point of order, let me make a communication. (Interruption of debate on Bill) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM IKOLOMANI CONSTITUENCY, KAKAMEGA COUNTY (Applause) without bowing to the Chair) Sen. Abass, is that the normal courtesy you are...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, that language is not parliamentary. We did not understand the language you used, but we will not use more time. However, you are cautioned to use parliamentary language that is understood. What is it, Sen. Wakoli? You may resume your seat, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale...

Thank you, Sen. Wakoli. Sen. Chimera, you can proceed to clarify what you meant based on the point of order raised by Sen. Cherarkey. (Resumption of debate on Bill)

Thank you Hon. Senator. Sen. Eddie Oketch, please, proceed.

Thank you, hon. Eddy. Sen. Abass Sheikh Mohamed.

Thank you, Sen. Abass. Sen. William Kipkemoi Kisang.

Thank you, Sen. Kisang. I do not see any other Senator interested in contributing to this Bill and so, I will call upon the Mover to reply.

Thank you, Senate Majority Leader. That request is granted. We defer the putting of the question. You can dispatch that communication on the request to receive more memorandum and views on this Bill to the Speaker's office. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) I will now reorganize the...

Hon. Senators, let us have the Chairperson.

I call upon the Mover of the Meteorology Bill (Senate Bills No.45 of 2023). I call upon the Mover of the Meteorology Bill (Senate Bills No.45 of 2023).

I call upon the Chairperson to Report on The National Construction Authority (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.59 of 2022) . THE NATIONAL CONSTRUCTION AUTHORITY (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.59 OF 2022) I call upon the Chairperson to Report on The National Construction Authority (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills...

I call upon the Mover, the Senate Majority Leader.

Sen. Osotsi, proceed. He did not second. I want to hear his voice.

I call upon the Mover.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Cancer Prevention and Control Amendment (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.45 of 2022) and its approval thereof with amendments. Hon. Senators, we are moving to the third Bill - The Cancer Prevention...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to Move that The Cancer Prevention and Control Amendment (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.45 of 2022) be read a Third Time. I request Sen. Githuku to second.

Division will be at the end. I call upon the Chairperson to report on The Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.28 of 2024)

Division will be at the end. I call upon the Chairperson to report on The Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.28 of 2024) THE ELECTION OFFENCES (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.28 OF 2024)

I call upon the Mover, Senate Majority Leader.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that The Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.28 of 2024) be read a Third Time. I request Sen. Faki to second.

Hon. Senators, the Division will be at the end. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker) Hon. Senators, we are now going to Division. We humbly request you to not walk out. The Division Bell will be rung for three minutes. I request Senators in the Lounge and those within...

Hon. Senators, the Division will be at the end. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker) Hon. Senators, we are now going to Division. We humbly request you to not walk out. The Division Bell will be rung for three minutes. I request Senators in the Lounge and those within...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended in clause 7 by – Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended in Clause 22 by inserting the following new proviso immediately after sub-clause (7) — Provided that any person or entity...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 37 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 18 of the Bill be amended by deleting paragraph (b) and replacing it with the following...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 36 of the Bill be amended in subclause (2) by deleting paragraph Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 37 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir,...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended- Appointment of Board Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 27 of the Bill be amended by deleting the word “these” appearing immediately after the words “any provision of” and substituting therefor the word...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move: - THAT the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 9 and substituting therefor the following new clause- Cooperative Societies Membership. Cap. 490 [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) in the Chair] Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 11...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 15 of the Bill be amended by deleting the word “Board” appearing immediately after the words “authorised by the” and substituting therefor the following new words “county executive committee member.” (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 16 (3) of the Bill be amended by deleting the word “nine” appearing immediately after the words “is less than” and substituting therefor the word “thirteen”. (Question of amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 17 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by deleting the word “thirty kilograms for a motorcycles whose carrying capacity does not exceed fifty cc and Madam Temporary Speaker, I happily beg to move that the House doth agree...

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.37 Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 19 of the Bill be amended- Clause 21 Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 21. (Question of amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move - THAT Clause 23 of the Bill be amended - Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 26 of the Bill be amended by deleting the word “County Transport and Safety Board” appearing immediately after the word “The” and...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 27 of the Bill be amended by deleting the word “these” appearing immediately after the words “any provision of” and substituting therefor the word “this.” (Question of amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

New Clause 30 Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 29 - Consequential amendments. Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move- That the Bill be amended by inserting New Schedule INSERTION OF SCHEDULE SCHEDULE...

Let us have the Mover.

I call upon the Mover. Sen. Eddie, you can represent the Senate Majority Leader to move the House.

I now call upon the Mover to move in respect of this Bill.

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.37

Proceed and inform the Senator.

Let me thank my good friend, Sen. Haji, for that wonderful information that has enriched my thinking. Maybe to respond directly to his new information, we must introduce a new clause to uproot all the Mathenge plants, which is not of any use in this country, particularly in arid and...

What is your point of information, Sen. Abdul Haji? Sen. Olekina, your time was up, but you have to be informed. Proceed, Sen. Abdul Haji.

Okay. Sen. Olekina, wind up. You have one minute.

Thank you. Sen. Murgor, you had a point of order or what were you requesting for? Please, give him the microphone.

Who is your seconder?

Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa.

Sen. Chimera, please proceed.

Hon. Senators, this Motion is now open for contribution by those Senators who are interested in putting in their contribution. Sen. Olekina, the Senator for Narok County, you have the Floor.

Sen. Olekina, would you like to be informed by Sen. Thang’wa?

Madam Temporary Speaker, I wish my dear brother would listen to me and listen keenly to my contribution. My contribution is geared towards making sure that he achieves what he wishes to achieve; and maybe by just amending. Article 189 of the Constitution of Kenya says: “Government at either level...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to air my views. Like Sen. Olekina, I do not know whether to support this Motion or not. I thank Sen. Thang’wa for this elaborate Bill. There is indeed a lot of manipulation in the current NG-CDF that goes to every constituency....

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Boni Khalwale, Senator from the great County of Kakamega, please proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale, when we resume, you will have 13 minutes to proceed on with the debate. Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until Tuesday 12th November, 2024 at 2.30 p.m. Enjoy your recess. Thank you. The Senate...

My apologies, Madam Temporary Speaker. So, Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you so much for allowing me to contribute to this Motion. I want to thank Sen. Oketch Gicheru for bringing up this Motion. I want to take this opportunity and condemn the abductions and the femicide murders that are happening...

Sen. Tabitha Keroche, is it possible for “Madam Speaker, Sir”, to be in the same sentence? You have to choose.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Abass, proceed.

Your time is up, Sen. Abass. Next is Sen. Sifuna, the Senator for Nairobi City County.

Thank you, Hon. Senator. Sen. Cherarkey, Senator for Nandi County, please, proceed. I do not want to say anything. You have heard the cry of your colleagues.

(Laughter)

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.32 (Laughter) Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Sen. Olekina?

I will give you two minutes.

Thank you, hon. Senator. It truly is an emotive issue to be taken very seriously by everybody, including Nyumba Kumi. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.32