Veronica Waheti Nduati

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. First, I wish to support the statement by Sen. Cherarkey from Nandi County regarding the exclusion of girls from certain sports or the imposition of restrictions based on age. Gender equality is a constitutional right enshrined in Article 27 of our Constitution. This Article...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, it has been a practice that when the Mover is moving the amendments, they just state briefly for the House, the import of those amendments. I have not heard the Vice-Chairperson of the Senate Stading Committee on Finance and Budget talk to any of those amendments, so...

Clause 2, The Title, and Clause 1(Question, that Clause2, The Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end. Hon. Senators, the Report will be done later, So, let us move to the next Bill. Clerk, please proceed to call out the next...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, she will need somebody else to check on the second document. She can do one, but not two documents at the same time. So, she will need somebody else to help on the second document. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina) : Sen. Miraj, you are also...

No, I do not have. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina) : Then you can just move. (Question of the amendment proposed) Division will be at the end. Clause 5 It is in the Order Paper. Perhaps you can assist her to approach the Chair. Sen. Aaron, please, proceed.

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that- THAT Clause 6 (1) of the Bill be amended by deleting the words “protection, benefit” appearing in paragraph (a) and substitute therefor the words “equal protection, equal benefit”. Sen. Miraj, you are also a Member of that Committee. You could assist. Sen....

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 20 (8) of the Bill be amended by deleting the word “adoptive” appearing in paragraph (b) and substituting therefor the word “adaptive”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji) : Division will be at the end. Clause...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move– THAT Clause 26 of the Bill be amended –

Hon. Senators, we are resuming this session for the reporting of the Bills by the chairpersons of the respective committees. I want to call out the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Energy to tackle the Energy (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.42 of 2023) . The Chairperson to report on...

I call upon the Mover.

Who is seconding?

The Vice-Chairperson is here.

Thank you, Sen. Kisang, for that. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.7 OF 2023) I would like to call upon the Chairperson to Report Progress on the Consideration of the National Assembly Amendments to the Persons with Disabilities Bill (Senate Bill...

Thank you, Senator. I would like to call upon the Mover, the Chairperson of this Committee, Sen. Murgor to report. Well, this was Sen. Asige's Bill. So, Sen. Asige, can you move the report?

I call upon the Temporary Chairperson to report on the progress.

I call upon the Mover. Sen. Miraj, do you have instructions?

Chairperson, proceed to report.

Thank you, Sen. Karen. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY PENSIONS SCHEME BILL SENATE BILL NO.14 OF 2024

Thank you Sen. Asige. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE NATIONAL DISASTER RISK MANAGEMENT BILL NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.24 OF 2023.

Thank you, Sen. Sifuna. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE LAND AMENDMENT BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.40 OF 2022)

We have concluded that section and will now proceed to the next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON PETITION ON RESTRAINING COUNTY GOVERNMENTS FROM HIRING LAW FIRMS TO REPRESENT THEM IN COURT CASES

Thank you, Sen. Sifuna. (Question proposed) My dashboard is not showing me any Senator who wants to contribute. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Olekina, Sen. Madzayo has an urgent urge to inform you. Would you wish to be informed?

Proceed,

Sen. Olekina, you are requested to use a tidier word than ‘dirty.’

Thank you, Sen. Ledama. Sen. Mungatana Danson Mbuya, please proceed.

Sen. Osotsi, when we resume this Motion, you will have a balance of 13 minutes. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

Thank you, hon. Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity, I would like to welcome to the Senate, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) of Cooperatives and in MSMED. You have a big assignment in your hands, hon. CS. When I look at the answer that you have given us regarding claims and terminal...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to ask the following Question to the Cabinet Secretary for Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSMEs) Development-

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, are you aware that in spite of this answer, which you have given and which to a good extent, is general that at the point when this coffee factory was being shut, its annual production was over 1 million kilogrammes of coffee...

Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir, but I need a clarification. There is no schedule served here. He is committed and that I can do the visit, but I want a schedule that goes to divide the factory itself. The visit is the easier part. On reviving the factory, why he has...

Sen. Maanzo.

Sen. Murango. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you could take your seat because we will take the questions, then you will respond to them together.

Sen. Cherarkey.

Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey. Sen. Mandago Jackson, are you doing campaigns from the Floor of the House? It is not allowed.

Thank you, Sen. Mandago. Sen. (Prof.) Tom Odhiambo Ojienda, SC, proceed.

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you can now take up those questions. The Cabinet Secretary for Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises Development (Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya) : Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank Members for raising those questions. They are very important for the growth and development of the sector. The first...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises Development (Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya) : Madam Temporary Speaker, I have yet to see evidence supporting the Senator's claims as the statistics we rely on are sourced from the NCE. It is important to note that...

Sen. Boni Khalwale, are you sure you want to raise a point of order? He is not a Senator submitting from the Floor of the House. (Sen. Khalwale spoke off record) What is your clarification?

Sen. Boni, he was in the middle of answering the same question by Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Perhaps you should allow him to finish. The Cabinet Secretary for Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises Development (Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya) : Madam Temporary Speaker, I am yet to get those statistics given...

Thank you, Sen. Asige. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, thank you for the answers that you have offered for the questions that have been posed by the Senators. Sen. Mandago, is there a clarification?

Proceed, Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises Development (Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya): I can remember it very well. Having been a colleague of mine, I thought we would meet out there then I expound on that particular issue. Since he needs an answer, the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I rise to support the Statement by Sen. Cherarkey on the death of Dr. Daniel Dege Chacha, who was a doctor at the Kenyatta National Hospital. Nothing grieves my heart more than seeing a doctor dying within a hospital setting. I wonder...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity once again to congratulate our colleagues, Sen. Crystal Asige for the commendable work she has been doing in this House. She has very ably and adequately represented persons who are living with disability. She has not wasted any chance to...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Energy Amendment Bill (Senate Bills No.42 of 2023) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow. The Temporary Chairperson (

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to comment on the Statement which has been brought to this House by Sen. Joe Nyutu from Murang’a County. It is my hope and prayer that, when the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations retreats to consider the insecurity that...

Time is up, Senator. Okay, half a minute, you finished the sentence.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Okoiti Andrew Omtatah, Busia County.

Thank you, Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Proceed, Sen. Methu from Nyandarua County.

Hon. Sen. Methu, I know you have hearty contributions towards this Motion, but I would like to remind you of the provisions of the Standing Order No.101 on the content of speech because you are contributing to a report on debt management. However, the way your contributions are going, you...

Okay. I know it is a bit uncomfortable, but you have to bear with things as they are, so that we move quickly. Madam Temporary Speaker, that good gentleman made that particular observation. That, we need to ensure that we reduce Government wastage. In my opinion, it is not the...

Do you need a review? You mentioned him several times. Please confine yourself to the Report here.

Sen. Methu is trying to be adverse in his conversation. I do not have a problem with him pinpointing the projects that have been launched here and there. However, this needs a substantive discussion because it is not relevant to the debt management strategy. Most importantly, he mentioned numbers and...

Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for the opportunity. It will never cease to amaze me that the Senator of Migori is standing to defend President William Ruto on floor of this House.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.105 on the responsibility of a statement of facts. It is sad, and I was hoping you could rule the Senator of Migori out of order. (Sen. Oketch Gicheru spoke off record)

We are interfering with Sen. Methu's debates. The Standing Orders are clear. If there is an issue any Senator would want to be informed about or mentioned, there is a request for a statement. We cannot have the Senator of Migori asking the Senator of Nyandarua to tell him what...

Sen. Eddy, please maintain your silence. The Speaker is in charge. We will deal with it. Please maintain your silence, so that he can be heard. He is on his feet. Maintain your calm and cool.

I am a well guided, Madam Temporary Speaker.

I know why I am being disrupted, but I will still say what I want to say. We cannot keep saying that we borrow because we do not have enough. The reason we keep borrowing is because we, as a country, assume that we do not have enough. Madam Temporary...

If you have any other issue beyond that, proceed so that your minutes can be spent.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I do not want to repeat myself. I appreciate all colleagues who have contributed to the MTDS that we embarked on as a committee. I thank my colleagues, starting with my Chairperson then my very good friend, Sen. Eddy, for the high commitment and the...

That is granted.

Thank you, hon. Senator. The putting of the Question is deferred to the next sitting of this House, which is tomorrow. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6. 43

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement that has been brought to this House by Sen. Mohamed Said Chute, the Senator for Marsabit County, on the foreign nationals working in Kenya's informal business sector. At the onset, it is important to note that Kenya has...

Thank you very much, Hon. Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Aaron Cheruiyot, the Senator for Kericho County. I want to also give another Communication from the Chair on visiting teachers and students from Ndiaini Girls Secondary School, Mukurwe-ini Constituency, in Nyeri County. VISITING TEACHERS AND STUDENTS FROM NDIAINI GIRLS SECONDARY SCHOOL,...

Thank you, Sen. Cheruiyot, for that very hearted submission on the debt situation in Kenya. Sen. Maanzo proceed.

Thank you Senator. When we resume, you will have a balance of 13 minutes. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir for the opportunity to contribute to this very important Bill that has been brought to the Floor of this House. Let me take this opportunity to congratulate the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, Sen. Murgor, for bringing a genius legislation...

Thank you so much. Hon. Senators. I have a Communication to make. (Interruption of debate on Bill) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KIANYAGA HIGH SCHOOL, KIRINYAGA COUNTY Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence, in the Public Gallery this afternoon, of visiting students and teachers from...

Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. I am not sure whether the Kha, Khe here was parliamentary language, but I will let it pass. Sen. Omogeni, please proceed. Sen. Boni, I would like to alert you that you are not “moving”, we are in debate stage. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale consulted loudly)

Sen. Bonny please withdraw the remarks that you are moving.

Sen. Boni, we will implore on other Senators to become seconders of many Bills, so that your mindset does not always think you are seconding a Bill. Proceed, Sen. Omogeni. What is your clarification, Senator Kinyua?

Sen. Bonny, clarify whether the education today as it is, is still important.

Thank you, Sen. Boni. Sen. Okong’o Omogeni.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Osotsi proceed.

Thank you very much. Hon. Senators, I have a communication to make on visiting students from the Technical University of Kenya (TUK) in Nairobi County. I would like to acknowledge the presence in the public gallery this afternoon, of visiting 11 students from the TUK in Nairobi County. The delegation...

Thank you, Hon. Senator. Proceed, Sen. Peris Tobiko. (Resumption of debate on the Bill)

Thank you, Sen. Peris. Sen. Kajwang’ Moses Otieno, the Senator for Homa Bay County, proceed.

Thank you, Sen. Kajwang’. Since we have no other Senator wishing to contribute to this Motion. Therefore, I will call upon the Mover, Sen. Murgor, to reply.

Thank you, Sen. Murgor. The putting of the Question is deferred to the next Sitting of the Senate. (Putting of Question deferred) I will now reorganize the Order Paper to defer Order Nos.17 to Order No. 25, because the Movers of those Orders are not here. So, they will be...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will be representing her. I understand Sen. Veronica Maina that you have the power of attorney to do that. Yes, I do. Proceed. You have four Statements. Thank you. In any order, Mr. Deputy Speaker?

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. This is a request for Statement on delays by the Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF) in approving and paying for procedures in public facilities. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing...

GAZETTEMENT OF DOMESTICATED WATER BUFFALO AS A FOOD ANIMAL

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is the fourth Statement. MAINSTREAMING OF SPORTS AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT INTO CBC

Thank you. (Question proposed) I will now call upon Sen. Danson Mungatana to contribute to this Motion.

Thank you. Sen. Mungatana. I see there are no other Senators who intend to contribute to this Motion. So, I will call upon the Mover of this Motion, Sen. Okenyuri, to reply.

Thank you, Sen. Okenyuri. The putting of question is deferred to the next sitting of this House. That will be tomorrow if the Order Paper allows. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE INTRODUCTION OF THE HOSPITALITY PROFESSIONALS BILL Sen. Okenyuri, are you still...

Hon. Senators, I will now propose the question. (Question proposed) I can see there are Senators who intend to contribute to this Motion. Let us start with Sen. Nyamu.

Thank you, Sen. Nyamu. Sen. Maanzo, do you want to contribute to this Motion on the hospitality professionals? You may proceed Sen. Dan Maanzo.

Thank you Madam Temporary, Speaker. I thank Sen. Mungatana for seconding this Motion and for also taking the moment to just support this work that is aimed at helping Kenyans. Madam Temporary Speaker, I also thank in a special way Sen. Karen Nyamu, who has also stood with me in...

The putting of question is deferred to the next sitting of the Senate. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) I will now reorganize the Order Paper and request the clerk to call out Order No.14. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON CATASTROPHIC MAIZE DISEASES IN BOMET COUNTY ADOPTION OF REPORT...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise in support of the Statement that has been brought to this House by Sen. Ledama Olekina seeking some answers to the question of how KEMSA is rolling out its programme and the provision of drugs that are being used in the counties. The time has...

Proceed, Sen. Methu.

Thank you, Hon. Senator. Proceed Sen. Okiya Omtatah.

Thank you, Senator. Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2023) Sen. Okiya Omtatah, before you walk out, you were the one on your feet when this Motion was last adjourned, so you had a balance of 17 minutes. Do you...

Would you want to inform him?

Thank you, Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Majority Leader, proceed.

Pardon me. I need to use my spectacles in the House. Please do the courtesies. (Sen. Joe Nyutu walked to the Bar and bowed to the Chair) You had already started making your way to where you normally sit, then casually crossed to the opposite side.

Yes.

Thank you, the Senate Majority Leader. I do not see any other Senator interested in contributing to this Motion. I know this Motion was moved by Sen. Sigei. He is not here. The Senate Majority Leader, would you wish to reply to the Motion so that we can conclude this...

The putting of the question is hereby deferred to the next sitting of the Senate. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) Next Order. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Sen. Dullo, can you approach the Clerk's desk? Hon. Senators, for the convenience of the House, I will defer...

Thank you, Sen. Betty. Proceed, Sen. Beatrice Ogola.

Thank you, Senator. There are no other contributors to this Motion so I will request Sen. Betty to reply.

Thank you, Sen. Betty. The putting of question is deferred to the next sitting of the Senate. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON CATASTROPHIC MAIZE DISEASES IN BOMET COUNTY endured for the last twelve years, laid on the Table of the Senate...

Please give him a minute.

Sen. Cherarkey, are you there?