Omboko Milemba

Hon. Speaker, even though I have not trained in guns and shooting, I know that the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs has no such training. He is taking it upon himself in this House, before cameras and Kenyans, to explain how it happened. Is he...

Is Hon. Marianne Kitany in the House?

Yes, Hon. Chairlady.

Let me hear from, Hon. Wanyonyi.

Very Well. We have heard you. Hon. Oundo.

Very Well. Lastly, Daktari Nyikal, let us hear from you on this.

Order, Daktari. You have made your point. I can see that the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party still has an interest in this matter. What is it?

We have heard you and, courtesy of your earlier assertion, I allowed a few Members to weigh in on the matter. I want to hear the Chair before we can proceed with any ruling. Before we hear the Chair, Hon. Millie, what is it?

Very well. We have heard from the Chairlady and we do not need to have more bites on this matter. The Chairlady is clear that she is also a Member of Parliament and her main role is to oversee. Indeed, you saw that she could not commit herself to an...

Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

Very well. This is a positive one. Hon. Chairman, what will you do about the section that has remained?

Is Hon. Adow in the House? There is a general statement to be made by Hon. Njeri Maina. RAMPANT ABDUCTIONS AND FORCED DISAPPEARANCES OF KENYAN YOUTH

Order, Hon. Zaheer. What is your point of order, Hon. Oundo? (Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record) Hon. Zaheer is completely out of order. Go back all the way, show respect for the House and then come back. Thank you, Hon. Members, for noticing that. This is a...

Of course, general statements do not require discussion by the House. Let me hear the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy and Irrigation very briefly. The rule on general statements does not give us a leeway to debate the matter. However, as Hon. Members, you have a chance...

Very well said, Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Bowen, you will take just one minute. Hon. Members, I will give chance to one Member on my right and another Member on my left and then we will proceed to other business because this is not a substantive Motion.

Very well. Let us hear Hon. Fatuma.

Very well. Chairperson of Departmental Committee on Agriculture, I am coming to you. Then the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs will take two minutes only to respond.

Hon. Farah, you have one minute. We will then conclude with the Chairperson, Hon. Tongoyo.

Hon. Twalib, I give you one minute before the Departmental Committee Chairperson responds. Give him the microphone.

Finally, Chairperson of the

Very well. We have heard you. Let us hear the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record) Leader of Majority Party, we are winding up on this matter. There is no need of name- calling. You know what the Standing Orders say about mentioning other...

Thank you, Hon. Chairperson. That should suffice as we bring this matter to rest for now. However, Hon. Members, you still have a chance to bring a Motion of Adjournment because this matter is of immense public interest. We can have an hour or more to speak and discuss it....

Very well. Hon. Oluoch, just for the record, you are the first in the list here, but the Leader of the Majority Party was within his time. He has just demonstrated how a Bill should be moved. It should not be a situation where you move a Bill for Second...

Very well. (Question proposed) The first bite goes to Hon. Anthony Oluoch.

What is your point of order, Member for Bumula? Hon. Wanami Wamboka (Bumula, DAP-K) : Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is a House of rules. We have protocols that guide how we dress. Is the Member for Funyula properly dressed to be in this House? He looks like a village circumciser...

Hon. Mishi Mboko

Hon. Bernard Kitur, Nandi Hills.

Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

Hon. Oundo, you have had your bite in 10 strong minutes. You have made a very strong case. Let us hear from Hon. Muge.

Hon. Zamzam Chimba.

Let us have Hon. Gichimu Githinji speak on this.

Very well. As a lawyer, you used to be very keen on debate. I thought somebody should speak on legislation in retrospect. But let us hear Hon. Bady Bady on this.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you very much for giving me this chance to contribute. I begin with Article 109 (5) of the Constitution. There must have been a reason the drafters of the Constitution were very clear and remembered to put an entire statement on how taxation should be done....

Hon. Chairman.

Hon. Chairman.

Hon. Chairman,

Is there an amendment? Yes, the Chairman, Departmental Committee on Labour. 12th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27

(Section 30(2) as amended agreed to)Very well.(Question of the amendment proposed)There being no interest, I will put the Question.(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)(Sections 30(3), 33(1), 33(3), 34, 36(1), 36(3), 36(4), 37 and 42 agreed to)(The provisions relating to the National...

Very well, Hon. Dawood. We have heard you. You may take your seat. Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Very well. I know it has been your pet subject, and it is the core of this Bill. (Hon. Robert Pukose Spoke off the record) No. We are bringing you, Hon. Chair. You do not have to be in a hurry. Let me hear Hon. Makali in one minute.

Very well. That provides a very good platform for the Chair to speak. Hon. Chair, proceed.

Yes, Hon. Dawood.

Not for now, but let us hear from Hon. Elachi.

Very well. Hon. Chairman, first is to give you direction. The Clause we are dealing with is such that you are deleting and replacing. So, it is not entirely new. We shall deal with new clauses later. We will still give you a chance. So, please speak about everything the...

Very well. Members are still not satisfied with the issue of penalty. Hon. Chair, in one minute.

Very well.

There are dissenting voices on this one.

Hon. Chair, take your seat. Let us hear from Hon. Member, my colleague in the teaching profession. Proceed, Hon. Dorothy.

Very well. Hon. Dawood.

Very well. At least, you have a rationale. Let us hear the Hon. Wanyonyi, Kwanza Constituency. Give him a microphone. Give him any microphone around that place. In one minute, Hon. Wanyonyi.

Very well, Hon. Wanyonyi; we have heard you. We should do that Hon. Chair. Now rest this matter.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I think the comments by the eurocentric journalist were very unfortunate. It is just a gesture of racism that has been portrayed in many ways. That was one of them. After all, even as we do what Hon. Pukose is doing, who would break a marathon...

Very well. (Hon. Beatrice Elachi consulted loudly) Order, Hon. Elachi. (Question proposed) I advise the Members who are interested to speak on this Bill to press the intervention button. Hon. Beatrice Elachi is the first one on the list. Are you ready to speak on this Bill? If you want...

Very well, Hon. Elachi. Hon. Elisha, I hope you have listened to that Hon. Member, in terms of information. Let us hear from Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

Order, Hon. Members. Order, Hon. Oundo. I want to give you space. I have noticed that one of the Members has communicated that she does not understand the gist of this Bill. Therefore, the Mover must consistently listen to Hon Members. Proceed, Hon. Oundo.

Yes, Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, let us hear your insights on this.

Hon. Kimani Kuria, if possible, explain what you mean. These proceedings are being watched by members of the public.

Hon. Charles Onchoke.

Next is Hon. Caroli Omondi.

Hon. Members, it is evident that we have had quite an interesting debate. There being no further interest, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Next Order. (The Temporary Speaker consulted the Clerk-at-the-Table) Hon. Members, I postpone the putting of the question to the Motion until the next sitting. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS BILL Hon. Martin Peters Owino.

Hon. (Dr) Nyikal, proceed.

Very well. Before I propose the Question, let me acknowledge the presence, in the Public Gallery this afternoon, of Oloirien Boys High School from Narok East Constituency in Narok County, and ask the Member, Hon. Lemanken Aramat, to welcome them in the House.

The first bite on this is by Dr. Robert Pukose.

Hon. Esther Passaris. Hon. Eve Obara. Those who want to contribute can press intervention button. It will be easy for me.

Hon. Suzanne Kiamba.

Hon. Susan Nduyo, Tharaka- Nithi County Woman Representative.

Hon. Catherine Omanyo.

Hon. Kuria Kimani.

Hon. Christine Ombaka.

Hon. Francis Sigei.

Hon. Joseph Oyula, Member of Parliament for Butula.

Hon. John Gitonga.

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Hon. Esther Passaris.

Let us have Hon. Nicholas Ng’ikor, followed by Hon. Oundo.

Hon. Oundo.

Proceed and inform Hon. Oundo.

Order, Hon. Member. You know, this Bill is yet to go to the Third Reading. So, thank you. You may proceed, Hon. (Dr) Oundo.

Is Hon. John Waithaka in the House? He will be followed by the Hon. Phelix Jalang’o. Provide a microphone for Hon. Waithaka. Is there a microphone around that place?

Yes, Hon. Jalang’o Phelix.

Hon. Eric Muchangi.

Finally, on this, is Hon. Stephen

Very well, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you for giving me this chance and thank you for coming in to allow me speak on the Community Health Promoters Bill. That is a group of people who have evolved from just volunteers within the villages, originally attached to maternal deliverance, and now...

Very well.

Very well. Thank you for informing me about the Hippocratic Oath. I think they should take that oath because they handle a lot of personal information. A grace period for transition is very important. The volunteer CHPs should not lose their place because of certification, which will be a requirement....