Omboko Milemba

Hon. Letipila, you have a right to reply.

Order, Hon. Letipila. You should have asked subsequent questions concerning your Statement. You are deviating greatly and so, could you concentrate on the clarifications and other smaller questions concerning your Statement?

Very well. Hon. Pauline.

Very well. Hon. Raso.

Very well. That should suffice. Let us close that debate. We have a lot of business ahead. Before we move to the next Statement, let me acknowledge the presence of schools in the Speaker’s Gallery. They are: St. Marks Girls, Cherangany Constituency, Trans Nzoia County and Taita Mauche Secondary School,...

Very well. We move to the next request for statement by Hon. Rebecca Tonkei. It is being replied to by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock. Is he in the House? I am told the Vice- Chairman is in the House and ready to reply. Vice-Chairman,...

Hon. Rebecca Tonkei.

That request for a statement was quite emotive. Is it true that nothing is happening in terms of the marketing of wheat? We saw the farmers on the road with their tractors. Yes, Hon. Chairperson.

Yes, Hon. Member. That will be the last comment on this one. Give the Member the microphone.

What is it, Hon. Member? Do you want to contribute on the same?

We shall rest the matter there. However, that was a very serious and emotive issue. Leader of the Majority Party, I want you to call the Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture and Livestock Development and ask him to deal specifically with wheat farming in Narok and other cereals about which it...

Let us go back to Order 5. 3rd April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 19 QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK OF 8TH – 10TH APRIL 2025

Before we move to the next Order, let me acknowledge the presence, in the Speakers' Gallery, of the following schools: St. Jude Karurumo Day School, Runyenjes Constituency, Embu County. We also have Entaretoi Comprehensive School, Kajiado East Constituency, Kajiado County, and PCEA Mararal, Samburu Central Constituency, Samburu County. Is Hon....

We go back to Order No.5; Chairperson Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.

Next Order. 3rd April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 23 THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL Let us go back to the Division of Revenue Bill. Hon. Sunkuyia was on the Floor. You may proceed.

Hon. Aseka

Hon. Members, it is important that we acknowledge the schools that are visiting Parliament. Before we proceed, allow me to acknowledge, in the Speaker's Gallery, the presence of Maguma Day Mixed Secondary School 3rd April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 24 from Maara, Tharaka-Nithi County; Mwiciringiri Primary School from Naivasha and...

Very well. Hon. Mary Emaase on Division of Revenue Bill.

Very well. The new Chair of the Budget and Appropriation Committee, Hon. Atandi, did a very good job in moving this particular Bill. The general mood in the House is that he be called upon to reply. So, let me call upon the Mover to reply.

Order! Members, you may take your seats. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was read a Second Time and Committed to a Committee of the whole House) Order, Hon. Members. I will rearrange the Order Paper. We will go to Order No.11 and then afterwards, we shall revert to...

Very well. Hon. Stephen Mogaka is No. 1 here in the requests list. I am also aware that two Members do not have cards: 12th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 167 Hon. Bady and Hon. Catherine. I cannot see Hon. Nabii even though I left him here. Meanwhile, let me...

Very well. You have had a good, well-spoken bite on the Budget. We will begin with Hon. Twalib Bady because he is fasting. Thereafter, we will listen to Hon. Nabii. Proceed, Hon. Bady.

Very well. You have done your bit. Umeweza kunena vyema, ahsante sana. Hon. Irene, uwepo wako karibu na Twalib usije ukaharibia vinara wengine majina. Sasa ni nafasi ya Hon. Nabii Nabwera.

Well spoken. Hon. Maungu, Member for Luanda Constituency, has been mentioned. Are you ready to speak on this? Proceed.

Hon. Andrew Okuome, the Member for Karachuonyo.

Very well. There being no more interest in this particular Motion, the mover shall be called upon to reply during the next session. Next order. LEGAL RECOGNITION AND PROTECTION OF E-HAILING MOTORCYCLE RIDERS AND DELIVERY PERSONNEL 12th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 174 STATE OF SECURITY IN NORTH RIFT COUNTIES

Very well. Serjeant-at-Arms, you may ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Hon. Members walked out of the Chamber) Order, Hon. Members. You cannot walk out when the Quorum Bell is ringing. Order, Hon. Members. Serjeant-at-Arms, stop the Quorum Bell. The Bell has been...

On a point of order. Yes, Hon. Omboko Milemba. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise on a point of order that touches on a matter relating to the Constitution on the budget-making process. The practice of this House has been that, usually during budget processing, there is monies allocated through...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will now use a different style. Matters related to budget making are expressly documented in the Constitution. 11th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12 In particular, matters relating to public participation are equally touched in Article 221(5) of the Constitution. It indicates:“(5) In discussing and...

Order Members! The Leader of the Majority Party, hold on for one minute. Hon. Osoro, Hon. Tim and Hon. Wangwe, Order! Hon. Members, please consult in low tones. The Bill being moved by the Leader of the Majority Party is an important Bill that affects our counties. You may proceed.

Hon. Jematiah. 11th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 21

The first Member on my screen is Hon. Joshua Mwalyo. He is not in. Let us have Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

Very well, Hon. Oundo, but Busia has had two Finance Ministers, Hon. Okemo and Masakhalia. Anyway, that is a discussion for another day. Hon. Francis Sigei, you are on my list here. If you are not ready to speak on this, I will move to Hon. Richard Yegon. Is he...

Hon. Owen Baya.

Hon. Oundo, who do you want to inform, and is he willing to be informed?

Is he willing to be informed?

Proceed, Hon. Oundo.

Hon. Martin Owino, Member for Ndhiwa.

Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal, you are on my list here. Are you speaking on this?

Hon. Phylis Bartoo.

Hon. John Waluke.

Hon. Japheth Nyakundi, Member for Kitutu Chache North. Give him the microphone. You can use the microphone over there.

Is Hon. Geoffrey Mwangi, the Member for Tetu, in the House? Please, proceed.

Order, Hon. Member. What is your point of order, Hon. Baya?

You have made your point. Hon. Gideon Ochanda.

Let us move on. The point has been made. Hon. Gideon Ochanda.

Hon. Ochanda, you are talking to the nation. Could you explain exactly what you mean when you say that some counties are given additional allocations in terms of court fines while others do not get those allocations? Proceed. 11th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

What is your point of order, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party?

Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi.

Hon. Makali Mulu.

Order, Hon. Makali. What is the impediment? You began by saying you have been a Member of the Budget and Appropriations Committee ever since you came to the House, which is about 2013. Proceed.

Very well. We may proceed. Mover? Please give the Mover the requisite materials. No, the Chairperson to report. We begin with the County Governments (Revenue Raising Process) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.11 of 2023) . 6th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41

Very well. Mover.

Hon. Millie.

Hon. Members, I will suspend putting of the Question until the next sitting (Putting of the Question deferred) Yes, Hon. Makali.

Very well, Hon. Makali. Let us move to the next one. I have postponed the putting of the Question until the next sitting. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE PUBLIC AUDIT (AMENDMENT) BILL Chairperson.

Mover.

Hon. Makali, I am sure your sentiments were geared towards this particular one, but we still take them because they were well placed. Yes, Hon. Gitonga.

Great. Next is Hon. Njeri.

Great. Finally, Hon. (Dr)

Let me open up a little more space because of what ensued earlier on. This Bill was initially viewed as curtailing the powers of the Auditor-General. Let us finally hear from Hon. Irene Mayaka.

We shall close it there. Next Order. (Putting of the Question deferred) ADOPTION OF JOINT REPORT ON REALISATION OF TWO-THIRDS GENDER PRINCIPLE 6th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44 THAT, this House adopts the Joint Report of the National Assembly Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and the Senate...

Very well, Hon. Njeri Maina. You are a promising young legislator. De-whipping from Committees notwithstanding, continue doing your work strongly from where you are. Let us have Hon. Tom Kajwang’.

Hon. Member, what is your point of order? Hon. TJ, let us hear this point of order.

Order, Hon. Member. I have listened to you very carefully. Hon. TJ is putting forward his story. He has not said any of the things that you claim he has said. So, allow Hon. TJ to put forward his story. Proceed, Hon. TJ.

Hon. Millie.

You have had your bite on the cherry. Next is Hon. Kuria Kimani.

Hon. Irene Mayaka.

Senior Counsel, you have made your point.

Hon. Florence Jematiah.

Where is Hon. Jane?

Hon. Gideon Mulyungi

Very well. There being no further interest in this, let me call upon the Mover to reply.

Hon. Members, I will postpone the putting of the Question on that particular Order until the next Sitting. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next order. The Chairman, Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. LEGAL RECOGNITION AND PROTECTION OF E-HAILING MOTORCYCLE RIDERS AND DELIVERY PERSONNEL 6th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Very well. Just take your seat, Hon. Jematiah. Let me direct as follows: Since this is a Petition that will be of great interest among many Members, given the population of people and the money we have been told is involved in this sector, I direct that Hon. Jematiah seconds...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding the delay in payment of allowances to teachers contracted to oversee 2024 national examinations and assessments. The Kenya National Examinations Council (KNEC) contracted teachers to oversee the 2024 Kenya...

Hon. James Nyikal.

Hon. Paul Mwirigi, followed by Hon. Farah Maalim.

Hon. Farah Maalim. 27th February 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 20

Hon. Member for Narok, we have to respect the House. Come back and do the correct thing; you cannot afford to prejudice the House that much. (Hon. Rebecca Tonkei bowed at the Bar) Thank you. You may proceed, Hon. Farah.

Very well, you have had your bite. Hon. Adan Keynan, another ranking Member, proceed.

Very well. You have done well, ranking Member. Let us allow other Members to also contribute. Great speak. Hon. Catherine Wambilianga and then Hon. Nyamai. 27th February 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 24

The Member for Kitui South, Hon. Rachael Nyamai.

Very well. The Vice-Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs, Hon. Dido Raso.

Hon. Caroli Omondi. Hon. Peter Kihungi. Then let us have Hon. Fatuma Masito. Is she in the House? Proceed.

Hon. Edith Nyenze. [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Omboko Milemba) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) took the Chair]