George Peter Opondo Kaluma

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon Kaguchia. 18th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 48

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Before you second, I will add you time. I see your time is running out. Do not worry about this. Do you have this Bill? I regret not raising the issue with the Mover of the Bill. Nowadays, I do not do a lot...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) If you look at it, it appears to indicate that a public body or institution shall apply to the registrar for registration of public land that is allocated by the commission in the prescribed form. In the proposed new section 14, you also see...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Millie Odhiambo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Millie, your counsel is taken. I know you were taught by Prof. Okoth Ogendo HWO before you went to that university in New York. Was it New York University?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I am happy Hon. Kaguchia has raised it. You are also raising it. What it means is that whatever is attached to the land belongs to the land. Whoever owns the land owns it to the high heavens and to the very depths of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) You get it. That is a thought. I think Hon. Kaguchia and Hon. Millie, working together with Hon. King’ara, should also bring it up because it is disturbing many people across the country. I think, including several Members here. I want to give a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Turudi Eneo Bunge la Dagoretti Kaskazini katika Nairobi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Beatrice Elachi. That matter of sectional property, more so in your area of representation, is a big crisis. You are the third Member mentioning it. Let us think beyond what Hon. King’ara has raised in this Bill. Sit with him and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Julius Sunkuli.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mwago, I had indicated that you will be the last speaker, but interest has been shown by Hon. Julius Rutto, the Member of Parliament for Kesses. Would you make your contribution before we call the Mover to reply?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Mover, there is no opposition in your Bill which appears to be very direct. Will you reply now?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Your request is acceded to. The Question on the Bill shall be put when the matter will be next scheduled by the House Business Committee. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Bill...

Sorry, Hon. Temporary The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Beatrice Elachi, before you second, let me compliment the Mover for very passionately moving this Bill. The Bill is not well understood. I wish the House was full as you moved the Bill, with all 350 Members 18th October 2023...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Elachi! When this matter will be scheduled for deliberations before the House in future, you will have six additional minutes to second the Bill. It should be five because I interrupted you. I am saying it will be six according to what...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Let me first thank the House Committee on Delegated Legislation for bringing this Bill, which I support save that I will be proposing a few amendments to the very provisions that are proposed in the Bill to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Do we have Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri, Member for Laikipia East? He is not in the House. Hon. Gikaria, Member for… Hon. Members He is here. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is he present? Hon. Members He is here. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Where is Hon. Gikaria? Your card appears to have a problem. Give Hon. Gikaria a microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. In fact, in your sector, there are too many regulations. I am happy with your contribution on this matter. Hon. Charles Ngusya, Member for Mwingi West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Hon. Charles Ngusya. Do we have Hon. John Mutunga?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga be assured that immediately you are done, the Deputy Speaker will contribute on this matter. So be concise and to the point as much as possible.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Next is Hon. Deputy Speaker, the Member for Uasin Gishu County and my former teacher. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I hope Hon. Baya now knows you can only be good if you learn from the best. 17th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 26 (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kimani Kuria, you know that cases are not won because of who the lawyer is, but what the law says to a set of facts. That gentleman you are talking about could just have been on the right side of facts. But if...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Chepkonga. Hon. Kuria also knows that even his car grant had gone until I intervened. He was speaking on the sides. Proceed, Hon. Kimani Kuria. 17th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The sharp Chairman has just lamented about the powers of the Committee on Delegated Legislation being in charge of Parliament. (Laughter) 17th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 28 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)That is the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Waluke, yours will be the last contribution on this Bill, according to the request I see here. The Mover should prepare to reply because I cannot see any more interest, unless that powerful corner headed by Hon. Ndindi Nyoro and Hon. George wants...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Only Hon. Jematiah after that. Thank you very much. Hon. John Waluke, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. John Waluke. Hon. Florence Jematiah, Member for Baringo County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Member for Karachuonyo, Hon. Andrew Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Andrew Okuome. Hon. Owen Baya, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party and the Member Kilifi North, do you want to contribute to this debate? 17th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 30

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Makilap, would you make it as concise as you can? I see the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure wants to proceed with the matter on Order No.10.

Hon. Temporary Speaker and I wish to support. Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Chair of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, Member for Kiharu has requested to address this House on this one. He will be the last to speak.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) You have no power to donate. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba, which gender do you belong to? Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chepkonga, did you also donate to Hon. Fatuma Mohamed? Member for Migori County. Proceed

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Samuel Chepkonga, you have barely six minutes to reply. You must be careful when donating time. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) On that other business, you can only be permitted to transact it by the Speaker. 17th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 37

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The request by the Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation that the putting of the question on the Bill for Second RATIFICATION OF THE EAC MULTILATERAL AGREEMENT ON AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT AND INCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Mover is Hon....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri, Member for Laikipia East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi? He has stepped out. Do we have Hon. Chege Kiragu? Give Hon. John Kiragu the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Paul Mwirigi, Member of Parliament for Igembe South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gideon Mulyungi, Member for Mwingi Central.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba. Member for Githunguri Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much. Member for Marsabit County, Hon. Naomi Waqo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Ruku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Proceed, Hon. Kariuki.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Question will be put to the Motion the next time it shall be scheduled by the House Business Committee for consideration by the House. I thank you Chairman and all Members who have sat through as we transact this particular business. (Putting of...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I move for adjournment of the House on a definite matter of urgent national importance regarding the proposed deployment of Kenyan Police to Haiti. Pursuant to Standing Order 33 (1) , I seek leave for the adjournment of...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am a student of procedure and process. The Standing Order provisions I rely upon are very clear. It says that when an Adjournment Motion is moved and the number of people who need to stand in support do stand,...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) No. Let me move. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move again.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) There is a lot of disorder. I urge Members to sit so that I can move.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 33 (1) , I seek leave for the adjournment of the House for purposes of discussing a definite matter of urgent national importance regarding the intended deployment of Kenyan Police officers to the Republic...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Mover. 5th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 55

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Who is seconding? (Hon. Silvanus Osoro spoke off record) Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Whip of the Majority Party, are you on a point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Eric Muchangi, do you want to say something?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Okay. Give Hon. Nyikal the microphone. In the meantime, could the Whip of the Majority Party approach the Chair? 5th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 56

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Hon. Mbai.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is that Hon. Benjamin Lang’at?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Leader of the Minority Party, you may proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Murugara, the Leader of the Majority Party and the Leader of the Minority Party take precedence whenever they come in and request to speak. You have to wait until they speak.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I did not notice the Majority Whip de- whipping anybody. I will, therefore, assume it did not happen. The Majority Whip stood in his place and requested that we defer the putting of this question and its further consideration to a future date. That...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I had earlier on moved for adjournment of the House. (Hon. Wanami Wamboka consulted loudly) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) Order Hon. Wamboka. Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I had moved for the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mary Emaase. She is not in the House. Hon. Beatrice Elachi. She is also not in the House. Hon. Owen Baya, are you ready to proceed? (Hon. Kangogo Bowen spoke off-record)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gladys Boss, the Deputy Speaker and Member for Uasin Gishu County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Mwalimu. Hon. Eric Muchangi, Member for Runyenjes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Rindikiri. We have less than 20 minutes to debate this Bill. Can we listen to one another as we proceed? Actually, it is less than 15 minutes. Hon. John proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Waweru, you are the second last.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Millie Odhiambo.

Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma): Hon. James Nyikal. Hon (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM)Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Bill with a lot of caution. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Harrison Kombe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Andrew Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Owen Baya stood at his place and asked that the Mover be asked to reply. (Question that the Mover be called upon to reply put and agreed to) Mover? Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. Order Hon. Members. Hon. Members, the time being 7.00 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Wednesday, 23rd August 2023 at 9.30 a.m. The House rose at 7.00 p.m. 22nd August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 49 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) What is out of order, Hon. Kaluma? Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I seldom stop the Leader of the Majority Party, but schools...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Kiarie. Hon. Geoffrey Ruku, Member for Mbeere North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Geoffrey Ruku. Hon. John Mutunga, Member for Tigania. Before you proceed, let me acknowledge the presence within the House of Parliament of pupils and teachers from Iruma Primary School from Maara Constituency in Tharaka Nithi County. You are welcome to the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) How many more minutes do you need to conclude? 17th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 37

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. John Mutunga. Do we have Hon. Julius Melly, the Member for Tinderet? He is not in the House. Hon. Joseph Oyula, the Member for Butula, is a finance mind. He must speak. Hon. John Bwire will follow thereafter. Proceed, Hon. Oyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Hon. Oyula. Let us have Hon. John Bwire, the Member for Taita Taveta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. John Bwire. I thought we were debating this Motion up to 7.00 p.m. I thought we would conclude it today. I am told that 17th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)the substantive Speaker directed earlier on...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) In fact, I can see that the Chair of the Committee is very anxious to respond to debate but there is already a directive by the substantive Speaker, which we cannot review. In fact, that is what the Lead Clerk-at-the-Table came to tell me....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Geoffrey Ruku, for this timely Motion. Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal, the Member for Seme, do you want to speak to this Motion?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal. Hon. Julius Melly, the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Kindly, add him another two minutes. This is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research. How many more minutes do you need to finish?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Julius Melly. Next is Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona, the Member for Suba North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Tell me. My eldest brother passed on. Now, for my immediate nephew, how do you consider his level of need to a son of some peasant farmer who is over 80 years or over 60 years old not earning a regular income? How, in...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gideon Kimaiyo, the Member representing the people of Keiyo South Constituency, you are recognised.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Melly Julius, what is out of order? 17th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 46

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kimaiyo, do you want to be informed? He can only do so, if you want the information.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Julius Melly, you were allowed by Hon. Kimaiyo to inform him but now you have introduced a phrase called “means testing.” Can you unpack it? (Hon Millie Odhiambo-Mabona spoke off the record) In that context, how do you establish those categories? You said...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Just a minute. Remember Hon. Melly was just giving information. What of the child of my late brother as Hon. Kaluma? Remember, you are going to categorise him as an orphan, which you confirm entitles him to more. You get what I am talking...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Millie, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research stood to inform Hon. Kimaiyo. You cannot stand on a point of order to inform Hon. Melly, who was also on a point of information to inform Hon. Kimaiyo. Proceed Hon. Kimaiyo....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Adipo Okuome, the Member for Karachuonyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you Member for Karachuonyo. Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Bwire, Member for Taveta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. (Dr) Lillian Gogo, you have two minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Hon. Geoffrey Ruku, you are doing very well in your first term by bringing such Motions. Let me thank you on behalf of the House. Hon. Julius Melly, the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research, Parliament does not debate...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I can assure you that this matter is very important. We adjourned the business of Parliament to discuss it. It is a matter that the Office of the Speaker will gladly support, if you request that the meeting be held on Tuesday. I pray...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, the time being 7.06

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. (Dr) Oundo. Hon. Adan Haji, Member for Mandera west.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Hon. Adan Haji, Member for Mandera West. Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo. I know your Ph.D. area is food science.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Thank you, Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo. Member for Tetu, Hon. Geoffrey Mwangi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Geoffrey Mwangi. Let us have Hon. Zamzam Mohammed. Utaongea kwa Kiswahili.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Mjumbe wa Jimbo la Kericho, Mhe Beatrice Kemei. Mhe. Zamzam wa Jimbo la Mombasa akianza kuongea, Kiswahili changu hupotea.

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Asante sana. Member for Kisauni, Ndugu Rashid Bedzimba.

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, I urge that we look at the objects of the Bill as stated therein as we debate it. This Bill is not about food or feed safety, but it is meant to provide a coordinating mechanism around agencies dealing with those functions...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Asante ndugu Mhe. Bedzimba.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Timothy Toroitich, the Member for Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) What is out of order, Hon. Joshua Kimilu?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Joshua Kimilu, I confirm your concern. However, this is a Bill which is not limited in time. It will continue until tomorrow if scheduled. Unless Members want to constrict their debates, let Members have their time to deliberate on the issues being raised....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. I am informed that Hon. Andrew Okuome wants to address the House on this matter for five minutes. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Andrew Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Hon. Catherine Omanyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Your information has been rejected. Proceed,

Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma): Hon. Fredrick Ikana. Hon. Fred Ikana (Shinyalu, ANC)Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to the Motion. 15th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 46 Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma): Hon....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Leader of the Majority Party, thank you very much. We end this debate at that point. For the convenience of the House, the Question will be put when the people who prepare the House business next list this matter in the Order Paper. ADJOURNMENT The...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mutunga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mutunga, do you need more time? If not, well and good. Hon. Dr Lillian Gogo, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Dr Lilian Gogo. Do we have Hon. Titus Lotee, Member of Parliament for Kacheliba?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Lotee, the substantive Speaker of the House, the Rt. Hon. Moses Wetang’ula, had given direction on the intervention by the Senate on this Fund. I hope when it comes up, you will speak as eloquently, so that the Fund can reach the targeted...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Sigei. You have spoken from experience. As the Hon. Cannon (Dr) Naomi Waqo prepares, we will have Hon. Bady, the Member of Parliament for Jomvu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Asante sana. Is Hon. Naomi Waqo ready? We recognise you, Mheshimiwa. 10th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Naomi Waqo. I did not know we have something called the Civil Servant Housing Scheme Fund. I am hearing it from the Report and yourself. How I wish the current Government could exploit your advice now that we have the Housing...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Ngusya, if we were to go that direction, would the Equilisation Fund still have its meaning under the Constitution? My worry is, even parts of Homa Bay Town Constituency would claim it, and that is the hurdle we have been facing with its...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei, Member for Elgeyo Marakwet County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) It is time for our brothers and sisters who came in this term to prosper. We concluded the one by Hon. Wamboka the other day and Hon. Fatuma also appears to be doing very well. I recognise Hon. Mwafrika Augustine Kamande, the Member of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Mwafrika. Those submissions could only be made by you. Now, let us have Hon. (Dr) Eve Obara, the Member for Kabondo Kasipul. 10th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 47

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Eve Obara is saying that the President has spoken on the fight against corruption. Be warned. The warning shot has been fired. Those who do not want to go to prison should do the right thing. Hon. Irene Mayaka, Nominated Member of Parliament...

An Independent Member. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) There being no further requests for Members to speak to this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Hon. Chairperson. For the convenience of the House, the putting of the Question to this Motion shall be pended to the next sitting of the House on Tuesday. (Putting of the Question deferred) ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I thank you, Hon. Speaker. Section 974 of the Company’s Act requires all foreign companies to be registered before they can do business in the country. There is very heavy punishment because it makes it a criminal offence for any foreign company to...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker What is your point of order, Hon. Kaluma? Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Speaker, I am concerned that the cabinet secretaries are not treating this matter with the seriousness it deserves....

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Speaker, you partly responded to my matter of concern. We could be discussing matters of the nation in the context of our regional intervention, which may not be prudent. It may call for in-camera proceedings if necessary. I request an intervention because...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, our former Leader of the Majority Party is doing very well, and I am quiet because I am waiting for the last Statement that he will make so that I can commend him for the excellent work he is doing....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, Dr. Owen Baya, and Member for Kilifi North Constituency, please proceed and second.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Owen Baya. (Question proposed) 9th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)There are too many requests. I am searching for Hon. Peter Kihungi, the Member for Kangema. You are recognised.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon Peter Kihungi. Hon. Omboko Milemba. 9th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 52

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much. I do not see any further requests from Members on this Bill. I take this opportunity to congratulate Hon. Didmus Barasa because this Amendment Bill looks very straightforward and very urgent for the nation. There being no further interest, I...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, for some good reason, the Question on the Bill will be put the next time the Assembly will sit following the direction of the House Business Committee, possibly tomorrow. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE CANCER PREVENTION AND CONTROL (AMENDMENT)...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Bill deferred)Thank you. The matter at Order No.11 is deferred to the next time it will be scheduled for consideration by the House. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Next Order. THE NATIONAL CONSTRUCTION AUTHORITY (AMENDMENT) BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Mover, Hon David...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Bill deferred)Hon. David Gikaria indicated that he was engaged in some national duty outside the House. I, therefore, understand. The matter appearing as Order No.12 is accordingly stepped down to the next time it will be scheduled for consideration by the House. The Temporary Speaker...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Motion deferred)The matter for consideration under Order No.14 is accordingly stepped down for consideration the next time it will be in the Order Paper. Next Order. 9th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 55 APPROVAL OF REPORT ON THE EXCISE DUTY (AMENDMENT) REGULATIONS, 2023 The Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Motion deferred)For the convenience of the House, the matter appearing under the Order No.15 is the one which Hon. Owen Baya has made a request for. It will be stepped down for consideration by the House on future date. Do we have the Movers for...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Owen. Call out the next Order, lead Clerk-at-the-Table. NOTING OF REPORT OF THE KENYAN DELEGATION TO THE 146TH ASSEMBLY OF IPU AND RELATED MEETINGS IN THE KINGDOM OF BAHRAIN The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Mover. Again, Hon. Owen Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Motion deferred)The matter under Order No.16 is accordingly stepped down. Next Order. 9th August 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 56 NOTING OF REPORT OF THE KENYAN DELEGATION TO THE 4TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE EAPA-FSN IN KIGALI, RWANDA The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Mover of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Motion deferred)Pursuant to that request, the Motion appearing under Order No.17 is stepped down to the next time it will be scheduled for consideration. Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE INSPECTION OF VARIOUS ONE-STOP BORDER POSTS IN THE NORTHERN CORRIDOR OF EAC REGION The...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Motion deferred)For the convenience of the House, and following that request, the matter appearing under Order No.18 in the Order Paper of this afternoon is stepped down to the next time it will be enlisted for consideration by the House. Next Order. THE FOOD AND...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Bill deferred)The Leader of the Majority Party has engagement outside the House. As the Mover of this particular Bill, he is indulged by the House. The matter appearing under Order 19 will accordingly be rescheduled for consideration the next time it will be in the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Bill deferred)Indulgence of the House is granted. The matter appearing under Order No.20 will be stood down to the next time it will be enlisted for consideration by the House. Next Order. THE SUGAR BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Do we have the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Bill deferred)It has been a very busy afternoon for Members engaging and those serving Kenyans in the Executive. I understand when a Member stepped down to engage on other matters of concern to the people. The matter appearing under Order No.21 will, therefore, be stood...