Sen. Thang’wa Sen. Sifuna, please, proceed. February 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 21 Sen. Thang’wa Hio ni sawa. Sasa inayoweza kufanyika kwa haraka ni sisi sote kujadilia hii Hoja kwa lugha ya Kiswahili, ambayo Mambo Mbotela alikuwa anatumia kutangaza.Tulipokuwa tunakua, huyu muungwana alikuwa kielelezo cha kuigwa. Baada ya masomo yangu, niliiingia...

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. After deliberations and understanding my role as a Senator, which is oversight and representation, I understand that is what we call a fair comment. I do not want to attract Sen. Osotsi again to stand and maybe ask for...

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Sen. Osotsi, I just want you to understand that even when the ODM is in a broad- based government, they will continue making noise; you will see them. They have given them chairmanship and they are still making noise against the government....

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, actually that is what I did. I just said that I was misunderstood. I used an ‘L’ instead of an ‘R’ and since they did not get it and I want to continue being friends with Sen. Sifuna because I like what he is...

Sen. Thang’wa So, I meant just that even if they are in Government and I am supporting that, because if you listen to Sen. Sifuna today, even if you listened to him yesterday, he looks uncompromisable, even if he is promised that his people will be given chairman. Look at...

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I say he will join the government---

Sen. Thang’wa Sen. Osotsi, you are the one who raised the need for him to substantiate. So, let him finish to know if you are satisfied with the answer or not.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 105. I have my ticket and hotel booking as everyone does. So, you are the one who should actually substantiate. Sen. Eddie has collected all evidence. That is what he has gone to do. I feel pained to be told that I...

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Sen. Thang’wa Sen. Hamida, that is noted. Sen. Eddie was directed by the Speaker to present evidence of those tickets, which I believe he will present by tomorrow. Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa. February 19, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 49 Sen. Thang’wa[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker...

Sen. Hamida, that is noted. Sen. Eddie was directed by the Speaker to present evidence of those tickets, which I believe he will present by tomorrow. Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa. Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. On a more important angle, we need to know why we lost. We lost...

Thank you, Sen. Karugo Thang’wa. Next is Sen. Omogeni Erick Okong’o.

Sen. Thang’wa Sen. Karungo.

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Sen. Thang’wa Sen. Thang’wa, when you make a serious allegation, it is your responsibility under Standing Order 105 to substantiate.

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Sen. Hamida, what is your point of order?

Sen. Thang’wa Madam Temporary Speaker, as I rise to give my comments on the Motion at hand, I was asking myself why we are debating it. I remember even when we were elected, we did not have something like for those who never made it and for those who made...

Sen. Thangw’awhen we were in Naivasha for a retreat of the Senate, we all agreed that we should give priority to business or proposals that are of urgent need to the people of Kenya.If you look at today’s Order Paper and probably yesterday’s, you can see I have other important...

Hon. Members, this is resumption of the debate that was interrupted on Wednesday, 12th February, 2025 in the Morning. As at the time, the Hon. Sen. Abdul, who was the Mover of this, was supposed to reply. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker) I have just been corrected. Prior...

Sen. Thang’wa, your time is up. Definitely they have heard you. Proceed, Sen. Eddie Oketch.

Sen. Thang’waAs a Senate, we have been handed a golden opportunity, which is to come up with a revenue sharing formula that will see us give more money to the counties. I urge this House, especially Members of the Committee on Finance and Budget, to introduce a parameter when scrutinising...

(Bill dropped)Sen. Thang’wa, you have submitted a letter to that effect and has been processed. As a consequence, the Bill is hereby accepted as withdrawn and is, therefore, dropped from the legislative list of the House to give room for other urgent business, as you have said. Clerk, call the...

Sen. Thangw’a Please, continue as they listen to what you are saying.

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Sen. Thang’wa I said take a few minutes. Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, “few minutes” is okay. So, help me instruct the Clerks-at-the-Table, so that they do not put light when I am speaking because there are no “few minutes” in that light. That light is very serious. Mr....

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to also weigh in on this Bill. From the onset, I have tried to understand what this Bill is trying to cure, but I cannot. If this Bill will come the way it is, I will surely...

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. You are the best. I was about to conclude. If you look at Clause 32, it says that- “Every person who conducts a fundraising appeal shall keep a record reflecting the income and expenditure relating to the appeal” Then, it...

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Sen. Thang’wagranted to each student and that the lack of transparency in the disbursement of bursaries from various agencies makes it difficult to determine the total amount allocated in a financial year, thus hindering efforts to ensure equitable access to education for financially disadvantaged students; NOW THEREFORE, the Senate urges...

Sen. Chimera, please proceed.

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Mine is very simple. If you look at page three of the response from the Cabinet Secretary, he has given us a table there of the approved budget, enrolment, requirements, and deficit. All I wanted to know is that because he...

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Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. As I rise to ask my Question, allow me to bring to the attention of the House that in the afternoon we anticipate under Order No.37 to discuss matters on consolidation of bursary. This is a very important issue and we should...

Sen. Thang’wa Cabinet Secretary, please proceed to answer the question. [The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) in the Chair]

Sen. Thang’wa Sen. Osotsi, we have discussed this system for quite some time. Maybe management is looking into it so that they can change it completely. Sorry for that, but you will have an opportunity next time. Proceed, Senate Minority Leader. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante sana,...

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Sen. Thang’wa Bw. Spika wa Muda, ndugu yangu anayetoa maoni yake kuhusu ripoti yetu ya Kamati ya Usuluhishi amesema kwamba pengine mwenzetu haelewi lugha ya Kiingereza anayoitumia. Namuuliza, je, ni haki kwamba hasemi kwa uwazi? Sen. Munyi Mundigi hujiita daktari. Kama daktari anafahamu lugha ya Kiingereza sana. Nishamsikia akiongea lugha...

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I did not know that Sen. Mungatana holds the SI unit of relevance. I am bringing a comparison of how the two Houses executed an issue that was supposed to take more days, but they reduced the days to a minimum. Even the days...

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, protect me.

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, please, protect me. I cannot be debating with Sen. Mungatana. I am here to debate on the issue of the Sugar Bill, unless he has a problem with me.

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, why is he raising points of order all the time? He was quiet when others were speaking.

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to also contribute to this important Motion on the Mediation Committee on the Sugar Bill. We, as the Senate, came up with this Bill. Then after the Senate passed this Bill, it was of course taken to the National...

Sen. Thang’wa I respect you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.