Mogeni Erick Okongo

Okay. I will allow two more points of order. This time, I will take ladies. Sen. Christine Asige.

Mheshimiwa, we sit here so that you assist us with information that will help us make a determination that is fair and just. On the four counts that the Deputy Governor of Kisii County is facing, I have listened to your testimony, but I have not heard you respond to...

What is your point of order, Sen. Sifuna? That is the final one and then I will give a direction.

Madam Temporary Speaker, you know that I am one of the most patient Senators and I sat here when the last witness was presented and adduced evidence. I was struggling to see the relevance of the evidence that was being tendered before us. Now, I am rising pursuant to Standing...

(Loud Consultations) Senators, let him finish. Sen. Orwoba, I have given direction. Can you maintain silence as the counsel is addressing us? The Counsel for the Deputy Governor (Mr. Wilkins Ochoki) : Thank you for the protection, Madam Temporary Speaker. I was just indicating and telling the House that it...

I just wanted to ask the hon. MCA, what is at page 158? Those are the ballots that were used during the impeachment. Who were the officers who preside over the voting during impeachment at the County Assembly and who takes custody of the ballots that are used in the...

Clerk, can you alert the County Assembly that we need them to come to the Chamber? Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats, so that we can proceed. Senate Majority Leader, please take your seat. (Several Senators sat at their places) Clerk, you may proceed to call the Order. (The Clerk-at-the-Table...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, it has been a painful experience sitting through this impeachment inquiry, more so as a son who lost a parent at an early age. With a heavy heart I sat and witnessed the evidence of Senior Joseph Misati taking the bold step of disowning his own son...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget concerning the utilization of conditional grants for the Financial Year 2020/2021 in the County of Nyamira. In the Statement, the Committee should-

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also rise to support the Division of Revenue Bill 2024. First, we cannot, as Senators, say that we are happy with the allocation of Kshs391 billion. Certainly, our counties deserve to get more resources. The national Government continues to remain with a huge...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this very important Bill. I do not think there is any county in the Republic of Kenya, the 47 of them, that is not grappling with this problem of pending bills. When you look at the figures,...

Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker.

Thank you. Sen. Kajwang’, the only thing I want to amend from what you have just informed me is do not invite them, you should summon them. We should summon EACC to appear before us. We tell the country whether we are serious in the fight against corruption, or whether...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to also make my input to this Bill. First, I want to go on record in principle supporting this Bill. We need to give comfort to Kenyans that we are not introducing new taxation measures; we are just putting in...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the counsel is doing well. For purposes of following his submissions easily, we would like him to refer us to the particular volume of the document he is referring to. If possible, he should refer us to the page so that we move with him.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, maybe just to assist the Counsel for the County Assembly, I thought his opening remarks would have given him an opportunity to summarise for us Senators, what the case for the County Assembly is, so that he sets the stage for us to make a following. In...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you have dealt with part of the issue that I wanted to draw to your attention to. We have done a number of impeachments in Plenary and what normally happens from the Chair is that you give guidance to the amount of time that will be...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, my suggestion would be, because it is allowed under the rules of the House and I do not have the Standing Orders; we could allow the clip that is being played to be taken by the Speaker’s office, allow somebody to interpret it and then it...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it was in the month of May. The Counsel for the County Assembly (Mr. Njiru Ndegwa) : Which date to be exact if you can remember?

This is to my learned friend and senior, Mr. Kato. At page 26 the money was sent by error to the number 0724616288 that is to Lucy Wahito. At E7, the money was meant to be sent to Gladys Aming’a. Could you kindly supply us with the mobile number for...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. If I heard counsel correctly, he says he had lined up Mr. Reuben Monda, but he seems to have left Parliament to take medication. He also adds that the Senate summoned another witness, whom he wants to avail---

Maybe, we can get clarification if he has any witness outside waiting or we are---

day, Mr. Reuben was cutting down the trees on the boundary between him and his brother’s land. I can give you an example. There is a place where it was being alleged. I am using the word “alleged” because that is what was being said, that council askaris and police...

I, therefore, wish to bring to the attention of all Senators that though they are required to account for their office expenses for January, February, and March 2024, we have been unable to disburse these monies to the respective accounts due to the Exchequer not being released by the National...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I am proposing an amendment to Clause 3 that seeks to delete the words “institutional housing” appearing immediately after the words “affordable housing” in paragraph (b) . The justification is, if you look at the definition of institutional housing projects, this relates to building houses for prisons...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 6 of the Bill be amended— Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 7 of the Bill be deleted and substituted with the following new clause– Default on

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, the justification is to remove institutional housing projects from entities that will benefit from affordable housing. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji) : Division will be at the end. There is a further amendment to Clause 10 by the Chairperson of...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 10 of the Bill be amended— Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, the justification is to remove institutional housing projects from entities that will benefit from affordable housing. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 11 be amended

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT Clause 13 be amended as in sub-clause (3) by deleting the words “the National Assembly for approval before disbursing funds out of the Fund” and substituting therefor the word “Parliament”. The justification is that the proposed Bill creates a Board that...

Sen. Abass, would you want drop the institutional housing scheme in your amendment to Clause 32 (1) ? Mr. Chairman, Sir, I will not drop it. (Question of the New Clause 32 proposed) (New Clause 32 read the First Time) (Question, that New Clause 32 be read a Second Time...

(Proposed amendment to Clause 41 by Sen. Thang’wa withdrawn)

- THAT, Clause 44 (2) of the Bill be amended by deleting paragraph (a) and substituting therefor the following new paragraph-

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I am not in the mood to engage in a heckling debate. Please protect me. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Cheruiyot, you are protected. Please proceed. declared Section 84 of the Finance Act unconstitutional and that was the basis for the collection of...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I have said on this Floor that I have tremendous respect for Sen. Cheruiyot. He is a young Senator who has a bright future. However, shouting at us is not right. He needs to allow us to raise our points of order. We are in this...

Yes, I have now brought back the amendment. That is Clause 2 of the Third Schedule. (Question of amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina) : Division will be at the end. I now ask the Mover to report progress. Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No.153, I...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, do not take this House back to where we were in Section 2A of the old Constitution. We are now operating under the Constitution of 2010. Sen. Cherarkey, there are Kenyans who died to put this Constitution in place. We have to remind you about the...

Sen. Sifuna, you cannot file that question direct to him. Just file it through me and then I will make the determination. (Loud consultations) (Loud consultations)

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, Sen. Cherarkey is my colleague. I know he is new in the profession, but there are some basic concepts in constitutionalism that Sen. Cherarkey should know. Hon. Senators, we shall now proceed to Division. Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Division Bell for two minutes. (The Division Bell...

Sen. Sifuna, you cannot be exchanging words, let us hear from the Chairperson.

Mr. Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT the Third Schedule of the Bill be amended by deleting paragraphs 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. The justification is that if you read the Third Schedule, the heading states the list of agencies for implementing the affordable housing programmes and projects....

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I must seek your discretion and allow me to move the amendment on Clause 2 under Standing Order No.1. The Temporary Chairperson (

No, I am moving the amendment. The Temporary Chairperson (

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by deleting the definition of the word “institutional housing” The justification is to remove the definition of the words institutional housing to align it with my other proposed amendments in the Bill. Thank you, Madam...

Yes, I have now brought back the amendment. That is Clause 2 of the Third Schedule. (Question of amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Sen. Boni should withdraw the remarks he made while concluding. You cannot say that you are “moving.”

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to also make a contribution to this important Bill - The Heritage and Museums Bill of 2023. The Swahili say that muacha mila ni mtumwa. If you have traveled around the world, you will realize that many countries...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am a very disappointed Senator. I combed through the courts decision that nullified the housing levy. I came here as a Senator knowing that I would get the benefit of 20 minutes to reason together. Instead, you want to push things down our throats, even...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Sifuna, I believe you must have been listening. He was debating in Kiswahili. Perhaps, the language--- (Laughter) Bw. Spika wa Muda, Mswada ulio mbele yangu ni kuhusu nyumba. Mambo ya njaa tumeyashughulikia vilivyo na tumewapatia pembejeo. Yeye mwenyewe alipokuwa akizunguka na sufuria kichwani, sisi tulishughulikia mambo ya wananchi wa...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I heard Sen. Cherarkey mention my name in a manner that can create an impression to Kenyans that I am not a man of integrity. He says that when I go to Nyamira County seeking services and a file has disappeared, I give Kshs500 for it to...

Unless we allow competition - I expected that recommendation to be in this Report - Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Sen. Mungatana, and Sen. Kisang’ - unless we kill monopoly and allow competition, we will always have these problems of high electricity tariffs.We can learn from other jurisdictions. During the Great Depression...