Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) , I hereby present the business of the Senate for the week commencing Tuesday, 7th March, 2023. Mr. Speaker Sir, the status of legislative business is beginning to get heavy. There are 13 Bills, which are at the Second...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. What is your point of order, Senate Majority Leader? Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for your indulgence. I humbly plead that you help us rearrange the Order Paper because before us we have a Motion which has a statutory deadline. If we...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Motion that has been brought by the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, requesting us, as a House, to approve the nomination, after successful interview of Hon. Johnson Nduya Muthama, by the Parliamentary Service Commission itself. He is...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this chance to welcome the guests from Makueni County Assembly and the Gambian Parliament. Gambia is a key country to Kenya although it is in the western part of Africa. It is a country that we can learn a lot from, and they can...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, on a point of order.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.109. It is not one of my favorites. However, with the indulgence of colleagues noting that it is barely 14 minutes to the rise of the House. If we were to go into a long debate, there are Members, who for...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is not on this Statement, per se but on the comments by the Majority Whip, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. The Standing Order No.104 says; A Senator who wishes to speak on any matter in which the Senator has pecuniary or proprietary interest shall first declare that...

On a point of order.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, sorry to interrupt the flow of the programme. I wish to draw your attention to the very important business on item number eight. With your permission, I request that we refer to the long established tradition of the House that whenever we have such pressing matters,...

Before I give a Statement, I am laughing because it is my birthday and the Senator for Migori County has gifted me Kshs100 for tea. (Laughter) It was not your money. Before I read my Statement, I would like to speak about one thing on the Statement on health by...

Okay, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

to move from one county to another and timely payment of salaries. This is unlike our doctors. I was just drawing a parallel.I wish to challenge Sen. Mandago, whom I agree with on most of the things he said. When doctors transfer from one county to another, this is where...

Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, thank you for giving me this chance. I join the rest of my colleagues in welcoming the students who are here today. Sen. Okenyuri has captured it quite well by reminding them that many of the leaders that you see here, chances are that they began...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I, first, thank the Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Cheruiyot, for magnanimously agreeing to have a discussion between him and me with the intention of trying to calm the tension that we have had in the House this afternoon. Leadership is not easy. If you...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I was trying to rise on a point of order. (Loud consultations)

In fact, I intend to be very brief.

Thank you. That is what I intend to do. I am sure he will have his opportunity to say what he thinks about this particular topic. (Sen. Sifuna spoke off record) If you can restrain, Sen. Sifuna because he stands straight and---

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, today we are here. There is a court order, but there is something different. I have taken time to look at the court order. Unlike in all the previous court orders that were addressed to the Senate, this one specifically mentions you as the Speaker. That...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I said yesterday that I have no interest whatsoever in the leadership that the minority side choose to bring. What I will not allow is for us--- (Loud Consultations) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I listened to him for a cool 20 minutes. I listened...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I hope that I can be heard in silence because when they were speaking, I kept quiet. When they were speaking, I was quite (Loud consultations)

Okay it can be even last year. (Loud consultation)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will keep my cool. I am surprised that there are people who have never even spoken in this House yet they want to be the loudest. Can you say something substantive? You cannot be known in this House for just being a heckler. (Laughter)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, can I be heard in silence?

You are dwelling on what I should give, he asked me a question and I will answer it right away.

This House is the last frontier for free speech. I have a lot of respect for the Chair. I do not expect the Chair to gag us. I have a lot of respect for the Chair as an institution and the gentleman sitting on the Chair. This is the last...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it cannot be --- Resume your seat, Sen. Sifuna. Ai, kwani unatisha nani wewe? Peleka huko. Kwenda kabisa. (Loud consultations)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it cannot be that every time when other leaders are speaking, you want to be the one that is shouting. Hon. Senators, wait. So, why are you engaging me, Sen. Madzayo? Why are you engaging the Chair? I have been so lenient the whole of this...

There is nothing to be excited about being elected. For your information, I have been elected three times. I did not have to try six times like you before coming to this House. (Sen. Sifuna spoke off record)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, point of order.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on a point of order. (Loud consultations) The Senate Majority Leader, definitely I am very well versed with these Standing Orders. The Senate Minority Leader (

Okay, table it.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank you for indulging me. Colleagues, you understand that we are living in very unique times. Therefore, when we get a little breather and some sense of sanity in the House, we want to move as fast as possible and transact as much as we...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thank my colleagues for their comments. We will be guided by the decision of this House. I plead that we pass this Motion, so that we can set the ball rolling. I know that there are many who may have wanted to speak,...

Sen. Cherarkey, just hold. Sen. Oketch Gicheru, the Chair has listened to your point of order. The Chair is consulting and a ruling will be made. Why can you not be patient and have decorum in the House? You have raised your point. in Embu and vice-versa. Through their own...

Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, Pursuant to Standing Order 57 (1) , I hereby present to the Senate the business of the House for the week commencing Tuesday, 21st February, 2023. Before I proceed with the Statement, allow me to take this opportunity to welcome honorable Senators back from the long...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This is exactly what I am talking about. The Standing Orders are very clear on how even a Member wants to prosecute a Standing Order behaves. You press the interjection button and wait to catch the attention of the Speaker. You do not start...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg your indulgence. I know Standing Order No. 237 permits you to allow comments, observations or clarifications in relation to a petition presented and reported. It says such total term shall not exceed 30 minutes, but it does not expressly provide in a situation such as...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support both petitions. On the Petition by residents of Uasin Gishu County, Mr. Speaker, you will recall that when we were last in Dubai, we had an interactive session with Kenyans living in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and the Gulf region...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. A word of welcome for the visiting delegation from Busia County Assembly. I hope they get to interact with our Serjeant-at-Arms department and any other department that they may find relevant to their study as they visit our House. I hope they make the best...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Speaker, I have no business whatsoever in what happens in the leadership of the Minority side, but I have an interest in the procedures of this House because we are leaders and we respect the rule of law. February 15, 2023 SENATE DEBATE 16

That is the same issue.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to give notices of the following Motions- APPROVAL OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR THE SECOND SESSION OF THE THIRTEENTH PARLIAMENT APPROVAL OF SEN. DAVID WAFULA WAKOLI, MP, TO SERVE IN THE COMMITTEE ON POWERS AND PRIVILEGES APPROVAL OF CHANGES IN THE MEMBERSHIP OF...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to indulge you together with my colleagues. The Order Paper is quite heavy and we are still doing notices of Motion. If you were to approve the same notices of the same Motions, chances are that between now and the rise of the House at...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for this chance to welcome our visitors who are on a working trip to the Parliament of Kenya and specifically the Senate. I wish them well. It may benefit them to know that under the East African Community Protocol, the Kenyan Parliament has been...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will be quick. Under the Speaker’s rules, I invite your attention to guide the House whether Sen. Karen Nyamu is properly dressed. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am getting really concerned with the kind of leadership that the Majority side is showing this House. We are degenerating...

Bw. Spika, tuko Maseneta 67 katika Seneti hii. Nataka kumkosoa Seneta kwamba hiyo sio mambo ya Kenya Kwanza, ni mambo ya mtu binafsi. Kama mtu amevaa vibaya, sio Maseneta wote wa Kenya Kwanza wamevaa vibaya.

Hon. Senators, as you may have noted, the Senate Majority Leader has tabled the report of the Parliamentary Service Commission on the approval for appointment of Hon. Johnson Muthama to the position of male non-member Commissioner of the Parliamentary Service Commission. The composition of the Parliamentary Service Commission is detailed...

Okay. Sen. Thang’wa, proceed. (Sen. Nyamu walked into the chamber) (Applause) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR NOMINATION OF HON. JOHNSON MUTHAMA, FOR APPOINTMENT AS A NON- MP COMMISSIONER TO THE PSC

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give Notice of the following Motion- THAT, pursuant to Standing Orders 190 and 199 (3) , the Senate approves the following Senators nominated to serve in the Senate Business Committee, in addition to the Speaker of the Senate, who pursuant to Standing Order 190...

Senators, I have taken time to talk to you but clearly, you were not listening. Hon. Senators, do not make the Second Session bumpy and difficult. From what I am seeing and going forward, we may have to go the straight and the narrow jacket way. Leniency will not be...

Bw. Spika singependa kumtatiza ndugu yangu Sen. Madzayo, lakini msemo ambao ameutumia haufai kutumika hapo. Hawezi kusema hasira ya mkizi furaha ya mvuvi. Yaani hasira za Sen. Sifuna ilikua ni furaha kwa Spika. Haiwezekani kuwa hivyo. (Applause) Senate Minority Leader, is that what you meant? This is a straightforward matter....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to appreciate Members who have taken time to contribute. This is not a matter to be agitated to especially by Sen. Faki who has had opportunities to speak on many important issues in this House. If we ask that he forgoes a chance to contribute...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am pleased to introduce to you, the Hon. William Kipkemoi Kisang’, Senator-Elect for Elgeyo Marakwet County. Welcome. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH

may need to guide us, but I will speak about it later. I wish he was in the House while I say this.The Bill seeks to cure the above cited malady as proscribed by the High Court in its ruling. Reducing the number of membership of the Parliamentary Service Commission...

This is one of the Standing Orders we need to amend because people such as Sen. M. Kajwang’ have the sound of two people. So he voted on behalf of two people. (Laughter) (Laughter) An

Sen. Omtatah should have been here at 10 am in the morning when we first made these orders. I am sure he will an opportunity in the afternoon. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank my colleagues who have spoken to the Motion. I have listened to others make a case for...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I accept your guidance.

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I cannot debate Sen. Osotsi when it comes to political parties’ matters considering he knows how to survive in political parties. He survived the last parliamentary term even after falling out with his party leader. He knows a lot about intrigues of political parties. My argument...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir. I would like to appeal to Sen. Mumma to think hard and long about her amendment. The strength of this House and of the National Assembly is based on the committee system. You are a Member of JLAHRC elected by a popular vote. During...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, please, guide Sen. Maanzo to not be frivolous with his points of orders. I thought he was raising a legal issue. We had explained in the morning on how we find ourselves in this situation and the person who took this matter to court. With the...

It is not my decision as to what will be the eventual arrangement of the Order Paper or what would be the default Bill. That is a decision for the entire House to agree on. I am pushing an argument and persuading Members of the House saying that in my...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, the camera is on. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Wamatinga, can you switch on your camera, so that we see you? In the morning, I argue against it on the same basis that you are arguing. The Chair of the Committee on Justice,...

Hoja ya nidhamu, Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda. Kabla turejelee mjadala huu, ni lazima Seneta wa Nairobi aondoe matamshi aliyosema kuhusu wewe kama kiongozi wa Seneti. Anafaa kuomba msamaha na kuondoa matamshi aliyosema kwenye nukuu za kile kinachoendelea katika Seneti. Ikiwa Seneta hawezi kumwambia Seneta mwenzake kwamba amendanganya, iweje Seneta aambie...

Point of order! The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, like I said, please do not fall a victim to this move. I want you to be firm and decisive. Sen. Sifuna is grossly out of order. You cannot refer to the Chair as having lied. We do not have a problem with you agreeing or...

It is a point of order. Relax Sen. Madzayo, you will have your chance. Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I have been in this House long enough to know when people do not want a matter to progress to its logical conclusion. I have been in this House long enough to...

wako naye. Kama amesema ameomba radhi, hiyo itakuwa imetosha. Ingekuwa vyema tuendelee.The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report and I request Sen. Methu to Second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.49 of 2022) be now read a Third Time. I request the Senator for Nakuru County, Sen. Tabitha Keroche to second.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have heard your Message. For a very long time, I have been avoiding to comment on this particular issue because you know very well that this has been a topical issue in our country. Given that this was a Memorandum addressed to you, I am now...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to give Notice of the following Motion- THAT, WHEREAS, pursuant to Article 181 of the Constitution and Section 33 of the County Governments Act, on 14th December, 2022, the Meru County Assembly approved a Motion to remove from office, by impeachment, Honourable Kawira Mwangaza, the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion on the establishment of a Select Committee to investigate and report on the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Kawira Mwangaza, the Governor of Meru County- THAT, WHEREAS, pursuant to Article 181 of the Constitution and Section 33...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is interesting to have Sen. Okiya Omtatah here. At some point, he will have to draw a line and this is with no ill will, malice or bad intent on him. He has carved a space for himself as a public interest litigant, but...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to oppose this Motion simply because the matter at hand has many dynamics. Looking at the Committee that has been put together, I do not think the dynamics will be met. (Applause)(Applause)(Applause) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to oppose this Motion...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have very clear rules of debate. When debating, you cannot impute improper motive on your colleagues without a substantive Motion. Sen. Orwoba is now imputing improper motive on me as the Senate Majority Leader and secondly, the Senate Business Committee (SBC) . There are former fishermen,...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Table it. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth Syengo, choose your language. You started with English, kindly, proceed in and finish in English. Be very careful what you say.

Hon. Senators, voting starts now. We are going to vote electronically. You can press “Yes”, “No” or “Abstain”. (Voting in progress) Therefore, we should not set a precedence of saying that we do not trust in committees and this and that may happen. By and large, we are all Members...