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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker Yes, Hon. Kajwang’, what is your point of order? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, I have heard the Cabinet Secretary discuss with a lot of professionalism. I think it is merited that many of...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker Yes, Hon. Kajwang’. Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, I will never go against your ruling because that is not possible from a ranking Member such as me. Hon. Speaker, you have solved the problem...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Point of order, Hon. Chairlady.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. The point is very simple. We have just come from the plenary. We made interventions which Hon. Speaker in his wisdom made a ruling which is right that those issues can be canvassed in the Committee of the whole House. 27th...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) We request you to re-order the Order Paper. You need to listen to us. If this is the case, because we have issues with…

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I have been patient on my seat waiting for this opportunity to intervene on this matter since we broke off from the plenary. I am trying to raise my voice. This is the first time I am told that the...

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I want to inquire about something from the Hon. Chairman because the amendments are being moved too fast, and I may not be on that page. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : That is okay. Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) There was a proposal...

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I support, but I wish there could be a further amendment to say that only advocates who have practised for 35 years and have been Members of Parliament. In that case, I would be the only one recommended for that position. I support. The Temporary...

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) We have preached this enough. I know you are an authority in insurance law. You can give excellent directions on this matter. Members, this evening, let me urge you that we do not come into this House to do anything else. It is to make...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I support that amendment. We should always display this kind of maturity. We want good legislation. This is far better than what we have in the Bill. Members, if Hon. Pukose's amendment fails, the Clause will remain as it is in the Bill. You are...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am glad that you are handling this very professionally. We have to deal with a further amendment before we get to the original amendment by Hon Pukose. This is okay but remember the claims settlement agent has not been defined in...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I wanted to stand on a point of order, but I want to contribute because it will prejudice what I want to say. The Leader of the Majority Party and Hon. Pukose are talking about this one-year transition. I want to put...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, you know that there is a lot of interest in this matter because it concerns constituencies. That is the reason we are here. If it were not for our constituents, we would not be here. The Leader of the Majority Party has...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I will be very brief. The Leader of the Majority Party has read a statement which is very clear, but he has talked about the principle in accounts called prudence. I do not know what that means because I did not go...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) The amendment is proper especially because fugitives do not have competent legal representation many a times. Could I ask the Chairman, in his amendments, to include something in the area of consent where he is saying that consent obtained under this section shall outline the...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, we are dealing with an omnibus legislation. The reports of committees and the Bill are fairly big. If you want us to move together, please, point to us which areas of the Bill you are handling at any given time and the...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, in good wisdom, you said that we should approach the chairpersons of committees to discuss these issues. As you know, we have just explained that they come from several committees. We are interacting with many of them. You can see the speed...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I know that it is already in the law, including the provisions in Section 35A which are in the Constitution. This is why we are repeating it. The entire Section 35A says that persons will enjoy fundamental freedoms and rights which are in the Constitution....

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) We abandoned him because he abandoned us. I do not want to waste Hon. Temporary Chairman’s time. Mr. Miguna Miguna was visited by people who searched his home without a warrant. Searching a home is distasteful. Getting a warrant brings those proceedings before a magistrate...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Just like what we did in Section 35B (2) (a) of the Capital Markets Act, Section 196E of the Insurance Act can also be amended. Where a person is suspected or accused of an offence under this Act, his home or property may be searched...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Just for the record. The Chair is referring you to 54 (B) Subsection 2 (a) , the words ‘‘with warrant’’ The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Yes, I am with you totally. Thank you. (Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Did we deal with the Microfinance Act? My Order Paper seems to suggest Microfinance Act before the Central Bank Act. That is why I was lost and trying to get where I am. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : You are right. We are...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I am just reminding the Temporary Chairman that page… I do not know which page this is on the Order Paper The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : It is 51D. Right? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) It is 51D, ‘with warrant to subsection 2A’....

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman remind us where we are so that we move together. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : It is on Page 936 of the Order Paper? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Things have moved from paper to digital making some of us...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, sometimes being a senior person is not good enough. The Leader of the Majority Party knows that we do not have quorum. Let us handle the Third Reading when we have quorum. I am a bit senior to raise that but it...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, when matters such as this arise, probably it is good enough that a few Members who have been around may also share their sentiments. With all that the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party and the Hon. Leader of the Minority Party have...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, I will be quick. The response has not answered the Question I heard. The Cabinet Secretary says that he was involved or engaged elsewhere in official capacity. This is the gist of the Question, as I understand it. The Member 23rd August 2023...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Yes, Hon. TJ Kajwang’. Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Millie had a point. The sugar level is going down. If you are not careful, we will run too fast. This is Section 17D. As...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, let me commend the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs Committee because he is always a truthful man, as senior as he is. Today, he has given evidence that he surely is truthful. He has moved amendments. Let...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, three minutes are too little to persuade Members of this House to reject this Bill. This Bill should be rejected, first, on principles. The only way to get myriads of Acts of Parliament approved is through the Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendment) Bill. This...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order. Hon. Speaker Hon. TJ Kajwang’ what is your point of order? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, we are bound to truths in this House. One should verify their information. I know that the Leader of the Majority Party...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, I have not risen to ask about VPN. Let me speak on the other side which I do not think speakers have looked at—the essence of public petitions. I served with the inaugural Members who created this Committee. Members of the public have...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, thank you. The issue that we have diverted to a little is really administrative. You always direct us accordingly and you are quite aware of these issues. When the Member... Hon. Speaker Hon. Munyoro, Member for Kigumo. Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) The...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I understand. In fact, Hon. Speaker, you must be concerned about your House leadership every time. You know that many of us, especially those who have been here longer, including the Parliamentary Service Commission Member who is standing next to you, we do that all...

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know the Member from Kikuyu is a veteran Member here. He knows that when he brings individuals in disrepute, he must have a substantive Motion. I hear him over and over again berating that individual every time in this country. There...

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Those are the tenets of the rule of law. You cannot discuss somebody, unless he has a right to respond.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Good morning, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this Bill. I speak as a member of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Members will know that I speak with some authority and understanding of the issues before...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I accept that information. Thank you.

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr.) Rachael Nyamai) Hon. Gitonga, I have a point of order by the Member for Ruaraka. What is out of order Hon. Tom Kajwang’? Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, ordinarily,...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Member for Ruaraka, what is your point of order? (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off record) Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) No, Mbadi is sitting very well. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, the Member for Kikuyu was speaking very well. I do not know at what point he changed from being the Member for Kikuyu to being the Leader of the Majority Party. When he became the Leader of the Majority Party, he assumed certain...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) That is not what he said, Hon. Speaker. Maybe you want to look at the Hansard when you retire. What he is saying is even making it worse. I do not want to play politics with this matter. We must never play politics with people...

Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, you know, I am very keen and adept to procedure and law. Whereas the Member makes a lot of sense because we want to develop and debate this Motion properly, we have developed a practice which is now in the Standing Orders such...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order! The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order, Hon. TJ? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am on a point of order not on the distinguished Member on the Floor. It is due...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, is it in order for the Member—I know she is a new Member—to address the people while referring to this side as the “opposition side”? The last time I checked there was only the Majority side and the Minority side.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) No! No! You are speaking to The Hansard. Is it in order that this Member refers to us as opposition?

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kajwang’ is on a point of order. Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know, according to my rank and seniority, I do not rise on spurious issues...