Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Speaker, many products can be used for medicinal value and these are used as extracts. Taking bangi as a whole product is not medicinal and does not help. It is just taking excess in dosage. We would like to leave the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I hear you clearly, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I will relay the same sentiments to the Cabinet Secretary so that he can respond specifically and not giving us the array of possibilities as I also find it thus. Hon. Deputy Speaker There is...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to respond to the request for a statement by Hon. Lillian Siyoi, MP for Trans Nzoia County, regarding shortage of fertiliser in the county. Specifically, the Hon. Member sought to know the cause of the...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I think the distribution of data across the different localities or different administrative units and different counties needs to be done. It needs to be passed across a verification exercise. It is not based on non-disclosure of information because somebody can bring...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Speaker, many products can be used for medicinal value and these are used as extracts. Taking bangi as a whole product is not medicinal and does not help. It is just taking excess in dosage. We would like to leave the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I hear you clearly, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I will relay the same sentiments to the Cabinet Secretary so that he can respond specifically and not giving us the array of possibilities as I also find it thus. Hon. Deputy Speaker There is...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to respond to the request for a statement by Hon. Lillian Siyoi, MP for Trans Nzoia County, regarding shortage of fertiliser in the county. Specifically, the Hon. Member sought to know the cause of the...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I think the distribution of data across the different localities or different administrative units and different counties needs to be done. It needs to be passed across a verification exercise. It is not based on non-disclosure of information because somebody can bring...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much. We know very well that agriculture is devolved. Being a devolved function, it will be necessary for the county governments to feel, or be sure, that they are fully represented and effectively so. The second issue is that...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This particular Clause basically establishes the National Agriculture and Livestock Extension Service Data Centre. That Centre will be the source of all data from various generating entities, including universities, research institutions, extension service providers, professionals, farmers' organisations,...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) The data centre will need structured administration in the staffing within, to manage data, the sourcing and storage mechanism. That is to ensure there is easy storage and retrieval because that is the purpose of extension information. It should be easily retrieved...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much for that observation. We have included penalties for non-compliance. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : In another clause? Okay. (Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to) (Clause 35 as amended...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. We looked at the logic of having a specific reference to a county executive committee member for agriculture being in charge of extension at that time in the Bill. Bearing in mind that county governments...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, we discussed this issue at the Committee level and realised that the county executive committee member is referenced throughout the Bill. We believe that the position of the county executive committee member might change in future. Therefore, committing the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, let me say something extra not specifically about students, but concerning the students and all of us. In this country, we gave ourselves the current Constitution in 2010. We gave ourselves excessive freedom for anybody to say anything, anytime and...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The configuration of county government executives is not a preserve of the national Government. There is no standard prescribed formula. An officer can be in charge of agriculture, livestock, fisheries and environment today, and tomorrow...

Hon. Dr John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I will say something in relation to what the Hon. Member has just said because he has brought in a different dimension. We are not saying that the office will change or the officer will change. We are actually...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Can we deal with the recommittal of Clause 10 before we go to Hon. Osero? Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Bill completely lacked provisions on the powers of the Board. We, therefore, had to introduce those powers. That is why the proposed new Clause 14A is being brought for adoption at this particular stage....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The entire agricultural extension delivery is based on diagnosis of the problem, sourcing of the answers and relay of the answers to the caller. So, the Diagnostic Centre is positioned at the county level and...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. For purposes of clarity, and particularly to satisfy my very good friend, I would like to read out the amendment. It says: A county government may make county-specific legislation on extension services as long as...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I think the Honourable Member has put the cart before the horse. I suggest that we wait for the next clause, where this matter is explicitly defined. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Will it be...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. It is very clear to all of us that once this Bill is assented into law, its implementation will need regulations. Regulations are detailed interpretations of Acts of Parliament in terms of actions to be...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. We really did serious amendments to this Bill. The reasons are one, the Senate Bill completely avoided the use of ICT. So, it was not up to date or in tandem with the goings-on now....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Clause 3

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes. 10th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Agricultural and Livestock Extension Services Bill (Senate Bill No. 12...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House adopts the proposal to recommit Clause 10 (d) . The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Hon. Chairman, move the amendment. Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to add my voice to the debate. I commend the Committee for the Report and support its adoption. I have noted with a lot of appreciation that this Committee clearly changed the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to the Kenya Judiciary Academy Bill. The question is whether this Academy is necessary at this point in time. Yes, it is at the stage of development, so that Kenya...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am grateful that you have ruled. 9th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 23 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Members, there is a very important Finance Bill coming for debate... Hon. (Dr) John...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We discussed this issue with the Ministry at the meeting. They were to give us a written report on the same when submitting their budget proposals. I have not yet received that. I have spoken to the Principal Secretary,...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. Looking at the Budget, I support this particular State Department and underscore its importance in conducting thorough mapping, exploration and search for minerals. As a country, we should be thinking about enhancing the allocation this...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. Looking at the Budget, I support this particular State Department and underscore its importance in conducting thorough mapping, exploration and search for minerals. As a country, we should be thinking about enhancing the allocation this...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to also contribute to the adoption of the Report by the Budget and Appropriation Committee on next year's Budget. I wish to thank the Committee for the good work it has done...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This matter was put before the House yesterday. The Request for Statement was made yesterday. I contacted the Ministry immediately. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have a liaison officer in Parliament with whom we work with....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) It was issued yesterday and the Speaker said he needed a response in one day. I tried to negotiate but the Speaker said that it is not the Cabinet Secretary who is supposed to give us a response. I tried my best...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mutunga, what is your point of order? Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am very surprised that a senior Member of...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The sticky issue in the Statement sought by the Member for Trans Nzoia is that subsidised fertiliser is being transported across the border to Uganda. We need to quickly investigate that issue. We need confirmation from the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This matter was put before the House yesterday. The Request for Statement was made yesterday. I contacted the Ministry immediately. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have a liaison officer in Parliament with whom we work with....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) It was issued yesterday and the Speaker said he needed a response in one day. I tried to negotiate but the Speaker said that it is not the Cabinet Secretary who is supposed to give us a response. I tried my best...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mutunga, what is your point of order? Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am very surprised that a senior Member of...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The sticky issue in the Statement sought by the Member for Trans Nzoia is that subsidised fertiliser is being transported across the border to Uganda. We need to quickly investigate that issue. We need confirmation from the...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) It may not be possible for us to get it tomorrow because I am aware that the Cabinet Secretary is out of the country.

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes, the Cabinet Secretary does not go with the office. I will try my best to pass the message today so I can see how quickly they respond. I agree with you. Thank you. I will do that.