Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member for Migori County is not on a point of order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Kaguchia. Proceed. Give him the microphone. Please, prosecute the matter before you. Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I said that ignorance has no cure. Anyone who has cure for ignorance might inform me. I said that ignorance has no cure.

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) I wish to be informed by Hon. (Dr) Oundo, please.

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for that protection. The Budget deficit has increased by Ksh170 billion, bringing it to Ksh1.3 trillion. From this Supplementary Budget II, I also realise that domestic borrowing has increased by Ksh162 billion, bringing it to Ksh1.13 trillion. The country is...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for the opportunity to contribute to this Supplementary Budget. Of course, I have made a few observations. For that reason, I want to oppose this Supplementary Budget. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 107 Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA)If you...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, arrogance is worse than ignorance. This Government has been misleading Kenyans by using Article 223 of the Constitution to spend money without approval of this House, and then bring it for approval at the last minute. That does not make the practice...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) That is when you realise that the Member is extremely ignorant and does not understand how public finance operates in this country.

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to clearly put it that the Chairman of Budget and Appropriations Committee has talked about Article 223… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Do you wish to be informed by Hon. (Dr) Oundo? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Yes,...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, Article 223 would have been okay if we were using it to provide medication and drugs in hospitals, or if we were using it to build and construct roads, but not for hiring choppers, jets with massage seats, and for moving from…

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. (Dr) Oundo, for the information. You can see the hypocrisy in the… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)Order! Prosecute your point. Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the point is that the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party is the...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member for Migori County is not on a point of order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Kaguchia. Proceed. Give him the microphone. Please, prosecute the matter before you. Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I said that ignorance has no cure. Anyone who has cure for ignorance might inform me. I said that ignorance has no cure.

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) I wish to be informed by Hon. (Dr) Oundo, please.

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for that protection. The Budget deficit has increased by Ksh170 billion, bringing it to Ksh1.3 trillion. From this Supplementary Budget II, I also realise that domestic borrowing has increased by Ksh162 billion, bringing it to Ksh1.13 trillion. The country is...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for the opportunity to contribute to this Supplementary Budget. Of course, I have made a few observations. For that reason, I want to oppose this Supplementary Budget. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 107 Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA)If you...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, arrogance is worse than ignorance. This Government has been misleading Kenyans by using Article 223 of the Constitution to spend money without approval of this House, and then bring it for approval at the last minute. That does not make the practice...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) That is when you realise that the Member is extremely ignorant and does not understand how public finance operates in this country.

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to clearly put it that the Chairman of Budget and Appropriations Committee has talked about Article 223… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Do you wish to be informed by Hon. (Dr) Oundo? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Yes,...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, Article 223 would have been okay if we were using it to provide medication and drugs in hospitals, or if we were using it to build and construct roads, but not for hiring choppers, jets with massage seats, and for moving from…

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. (Dr) Oundo, for the information. You can see the hypocrisy in the… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)Order! Prosecute your point. Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the point is that the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party is the...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the former Head of State that the Honourable Member has alluded to is His Excellency, Uhuru Kenyatta. He has clearly indicated… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Which Standing Order has been flouted? That is why I am giving you a chance....

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is your point of order, Hon. Kaguchia? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, is it in order for the Honourable Member to negatively discuss a former Head of State...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to raise my reservations on quite a number of issues in our Budget. Many Members have praised it, as I have listened to the debate. However, I hope they are also aware that this Budget carries the...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would also like to inform the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee that we have many cooked statistics in this Republic today. The statistics being presented are projections. They are not actual figures. We are operating under a deceptive system...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the former Head of State that the Honourable Member has alluded to is His Excellency, Uhuru Kenyatta. He has clearly indicated… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Which Standing Order has been flouted? That is why I am giving you a chance....

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is your point of order, Hon. Kaguchia? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, is it in order for the Honourable Member to negatively discuss a former Head of State...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to raise my reservations on quite a number of issues in our Budget. Many Members have praised it, as I have listened to the debate. However, I hope they are also aware that this Budget carries the...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would also like to inform the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee that we have many cooked statistics in this Republic today. The statistics being presented are projections. They are not actual figures. We are operating under a deceptive system...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, you realise that the seven shillings that has been given for securitisation was never debated in this House. The seven shillings that have been securitised was raised through a notice that was done by the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Murkomen, at that time, and...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you. I would like to start from where the Chair ended. I inform him that the Ksh707,000,000 that was paid was not from the Securitisation Fund. This amount of money had been paid well before the Securitisation Fund was conceived in this House. As...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the delayed construction of Gaikundo–Kanunga–Kaheti–Nyaguathi–Wakulima Road in Mukurweini Constituency. This road forms a...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I was among the people who were here last night, up to very late in the night. I was with Hon. Oundo, Hon. Makali and Hon. Ngogoyo. I have not spoken to this Bill even though the presiding Hon. Temporary Speaker put me...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you. It is my considered opinion that the Bill is so faulty that it cannot be amendable. I propose that we withdraw the Bill and redraw it constitutionally. I say this because I am not opposed to raising funds, not at all. That is...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker Yes, Hon. Kaguchia. What is your point of order? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the Leader of the Majority Party has continuously castigated Members who gave their opinion and contributed to the debate. We...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, you realise that the seven shillings that has been given for securitisation was never debated in this House. The seven shillings that have been securitised was raised through a notice that was done by the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Murkomen, at that time, and...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you. I would like to start from where the Chair ended. I inform him that the Ksh707,000,000 that was paid was not from the Securitisation Fund. This amount of money had been paid well before the Securitisation Fund was conceived in this House. As...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the delayed construction of Gaikundo–Kanunga–Kaheti–Nyaguathi–Wakulima Road in Mukurweini Constituency. This road forms a...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I was among the people who were here last night, up to very late in the night. I was with Hon. Oundo, Hon. Makali and Hon. Ngogoyo. I have not spoken to this Bill even though the presiding Hon. Temporary Speaker put me...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Thank you. It is my considered opinion that the Bill is so faulty that it cannot be amendable. I propose that we withdraw the Bill and redraw it constitutionally. I say this because I am not opposed to raising funds, not at all. That is...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker Yes, Hon. Kaguchia. What is your point of order? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the Leader of the Majority Party has continuously castigated Members who gave their opinion and contributed to the debate. We...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order, Hon. Kaguchia? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Kombe has said he humbles himself before the Budget and Appropriations Committee to get...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order, Hon. Kaguchia? Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Kombe has said he humbles himself before the Budget and Appropriations Committee to get...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, Pursuant to the Provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding the non-grading of the Kenya Sign Language in the 2025 Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education...

Hon. Kaguchia John (Mukurweini, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, Pursuant to the Provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education regarding the non-grading of the Kenya Sign Language in the 2025 Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education...